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<item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=2099533514</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2025 02:59:31 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #2099533514</title><guid isPermaLink="false">2099533514@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA["So, like, you're business partners or something?" 
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 >If you call your spouse your "partner" you are weird.  
 >  
  
 Agree. My response is always "howdy, pardaner" in my best John Wayne. 
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<p>If you call your spouse your "partner" you are weird.</p>
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<p>Well, they put tiles in the land too...    drainage .. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Aug 12 2025 17:37:35 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: The question of the year.</span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">ooooooohhh... a tiller, with two Ls. Language barrier problem. Sorry. You're talking about plowing the land, not laying tiles onto a wall or floor. </div>
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talking about plowing the land, not laying tiles onto a wall or floor. 
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 >Subject: Re: The question of the year.        
 >Do you do a lot of tile setting?         
 >         
 >        
        
 Just in case it is not clear, I am talking about this sort of tiling machine:
      
      
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HondaTiller.jpg     
    
 Except I am stupid and typo so much.   
  
 I don't do much tile setting myself because most tile replacements are covered
by insurance anyway. I do a lot of harvest work, though. 
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]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=2099529195</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 11:52:40 -0000</pubDate><title>Re: The question of the year.</title><guid isPermaLink="false">2099529195@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ >I would ask where you got the tiling machine.  I still do it  
 >the manual way with thinset and spacers and grout.   
 >  
  
 I bought it from a small engine repair shop. It was pricey back then - I
could have gotten two horses for the money - but it has worked fine for more
than a decade. 
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">For the sake of hypothesis, let's say I was doing something very manly, like cleaning the sparker of a tiling machine. And let's carry on and say a very big strong female shows up and tells me in clear uncertain terms that she wants some cuddle time.</div>
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<p>I would ask where you got the tiling machine.  I still do it the manual way with thinset and spacers and grout.</p>
<p>Either way, when someone wants lovins in the middle of a job, we call that a "priority interrupt" and we stop what we're doing.</p>
<p><a href="http://catb.org/jargon/html/P/priority-interrupt.html">http://catb.org/jargon/html/P/priority-interrupt.html</a></p>
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 >Subject: Re: The question of the year.  
 >if she knows your are lying, i'd say no. But i might be a bit  
 >biased too.   
  
 Biased? In which regard? 
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<p>if she knows your are lying, i'd say no. But i might be a bit biased too.</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"> The question is, then, is it abuse if you say you don t want it while you actually like it? </div>
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<p><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/sDwSjvyC/int-smoking.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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totally didn't happen.         
        
 For the sake of hypothesis, let's say I was doing something very manly, like
cleaning the sparker of a tiling machine. And let's carry on and say a very
big strong female shows up and tells me in clear uncertain terms that she
wants some cuddle time.       
      
 I really need to get the tiling machine fixed so I tell her in uncertain
terms that she is getting no cuddle time from me -what I don't tell her is
I would love to, because she is so damn cuddley.     
    
 She then proceeds to ignore me and, since she is big and strong, proceeds
to pin me against the tilling machine and cuddle me hard, and I happen to
like it so I cuddle her back as much as hard as she does.   
  
 My friends have told me I was cuddlery abused. The question is, then, is
it abuse if you say you don t want it while you actually like it? 
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<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Fri Jul 04 2025 14:20:13 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: Chinese "leftover women"</span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">My wife of 30 years is very happy to be left to entertain herself most of the time. A healthy long term relationship eventually trends towards warmth and comfort and familiarity, and doesn't need to be fed with nonstop excitement. </div>
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<p>You got yours to stay for 30!? Mine left me for another man after only 6!</p>
<p>I found out through a prophet of God that the first woman I proposed to back in 2002 on her 16th birthday that she's been training herself on her other men to come after me and "help" me overcome my prudish adherence to rules of law. (Statutory rape has rather high consequences, after all. Plus now she's 39 so she's not even underage any more!)</p>
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 >Not all of us females are 'in it for the money' and want an    
 >actual partner to share life with, not a "funding source" on 2    
 >feet.     
 >    
 >And don't kid yourself, tons of men are in it just for the    
 >'fringe benefits' and if that drys up, they kick the woman to    
 >the curb ..  ( and no, not just the one you are thinking..    
 >basically replacing their mother: cleaning. cooking, laundry,    
 >bla bla )    
 >    
    
 It is not that women are necessarily in it for the money, but modern society
has warped their expectations quite a bit. These days you are supposed to
be a fun guy who entertains them by organizing things to do and taking them
to places. That means burning through disposable income. If your hobbies are
at the inexpensive end of the spectrum you are likely to be dumped because
you are a "borying brick with
no personality."   
  
 And this leads to another point which is that women are very bad at picking
their mate, because when the bias is to pick men who will take them more often
 to Disney amusement parks over men who stay at home watching B movies, then
men with worse budget management are likely to be selected - and bad budget
management seems to be tied to bad life management. No wonder women get unsatisfied
from their choices. 
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<p>Not all of us females are 'in it for the money' and want an actual partner to share life with, not a "funding source" on 2 feet.</p>
<p>And don't kid yourself, tons of men are in it just for the 'fringe benefits' and if that drys up, they kick the woman to the curb ..  ( and no, not just the one you are thinking.. basically replacing their mother: cleaning. cooking, laundry, bla bla )</p>
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 >Subject: Re: Chinese "leftover women"      
 >It can happen. Tho i wont go into details, its not impossible.       
 >      
      
 Yes, I know it can happen. Something else that could happen is you win the
lottery. You'd still be a fool if you placed a heavy bet on the possibility,
though.     
    
 When you check the stats regarding love satisfaction they are overwhelming.
What puzzles me is that people still bet heavily on losing odds. This is specially
true if you are a male, because males are extremely disposable.   
  
 I think I have already mentioned one of my best friends, who used to be a
huge critic of my "paranoid theories" got the sharp end of the love axe recently?

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<p>It can happen. Tho i wont go into details, its not impossible. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Jun 03 2025 19:11:19 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: Chinese "leftover women"</span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Also I am kind of "mehed" by claims that people is happy... </div>
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the time.  A healthy long term relationship eventually trends towards warmth
and comfort and familiarity, and doesn't need to be fed with nonstop excitement.

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 >I get it, it's tough to find someone you can stick with, but it's not  
  
 >impossible.    
 > It's pretty clear that if you have to spend "kilobucks" on a mate to  
  
 >win their affection, then yes they're a commodity and they'll treat you
   
 >as one as well.  On the other hand, I'm still pretty happy with the    

 >mate that I landed 35 years ago when we were both broke university     
 >students.     
 >    
    
 It is not that you have to outright buy 'em,, but just how many chicks are
going to remain besides you if you do nothing to entertain them? These days
you have to take them out for diner, organize fun activities, that sort of
thing, and that costs money which so many people does not honestly have. And
if you don't do that you end up a borying fuck and nobody will want to be
with you.   
  

Also I am kind of "mehed" by claims that people is happy... I know a bunch
of cases who were happy on paper then you dug up and the couple is cheating
on each other. I can count happy couples I personally know with the fingers
of a horse. Horses have four fingers by the way. 
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 >consequences that would last to "the third generation after you". They
 >snapped back: "We are the last generation!" Sadly, they are right!
 
 A population collapse in China and another in India would be good for the
planet.  And probably also good for the Western economy, if we're going to
be honest about it.
 
 I can't agree with darknetuser's disillusionment as a whole, though.  I get
it, it's tough to find someone you can stick with, but it's not impossible.
 It's pretty clear that if you have to spend "kilobucks" on a mate to win
their affection, then yes they're a commodity and they'll treat you as one
as well.  On the other hand, I'm still pretty happy with the mate that I landed
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<p>There are ways around it. And super-oppressive nations are not beyond using them.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Fri May 23 2025 04:31:08 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=SamuraiCrow">SamuraiCrow</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Chinese "leftover women"</span></div>
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<p>Chinese women were treated so well under the one-child-only policy that they got advanced degrees, technical jobs in challenging fields, investment properties, cars and houses. Now they can't marry even though they are outnumbered by men in their own country. Why? It's impossible to impress them! No man of modest means will ever be "good enough". They've been spoiled their entire lives!</p>
<p>During the Covid fiasco, the Chinese government threatened them with consequences that would last to "the third generation after you". They snapped back: "We are the last generation!" Sadly, they are right!</p>
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<p>Chinese women were treated so well under the one-child-only policy that they got advanced degrees, technical jobs in challenging fields, investment properties, cars and houses. Now they can't marry even though they are outnumbered by men in their own country. Why? It's impossible to impress them! No man of modest means will ever be "good enough". They've been spoiled their entire lives!</p>
<p>During the Covid fiasco, the Chinese government threatened them with consequences that would last to "the third generation after you". They snapped back: "We are the last generation!" Sadly, they are right!</p>
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 >Subject: Re: Chocolate!            
 >Money is a proxy for suitability as a mate.  Like it or not, women are 
           
 >hardwired to be attracted to the men who are most likely to produce    
        
 >strong offspring with them.  It's the same reason young women like to  
          
 >date men who are jerks.            
 > Her brain tells her he's going to be unpleasant but her reproductive  
          
 >instinct tells her they're going to make good babies together.         
  
 >             
 > Never forget that we are animals.             
 >            
            
 I know that, but there is a twist.           
          
 Once you get rational about it you realize most women are not worth the investment.
I know people who has invested about 78k USD in a woman (which by the way
he does not have) that should have placed
that in some business that gave him 7% in yearly profits instead.        

        
 I mean, if I were getting a gal who would love me and help me take care of
the farm and stuff then yeah I get spending a shitton of kilobucks on her.
The matter of the fact is we males are overspending in women and getting a
very poor return of investment because we are not getting what we want. We
incur in heavy expenses only to be discarded because in relationships everybody
is expendable.       
      
 I am saying this again: people I know who are in relationships are either
unhappy or are in a situation which is obviously going to crash. So the rational
thing for me to do is not to bet much in a relationship. The problem is people
is blatanly non-rational, which is easy to observe once you realize that,
in a given Western country, the demographics who breed like hares are the
most irrational groups.
    
    
 This is a market after all. It is like people overpays for crappy Apple products:
a group of people buying overpriced crap will make the whole market overpriced
for everybody, including the few rational actors who know 1k USD is not a
justifiable price for a social media portable device. One day you try to buy
a 200 USD phone and the only ones left in the market are heavily used or are
crappy outright.   
  
 So yeah I think I'd have a 300 bucks horse instead, thanks. \o/ 
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to be attracted to the men who are most likely to produce strong offspring
with them.  It's the same reason young women like to date men who are jerks.
 Her brain tells her he's going to be unpleasant but her reproductive instinct
tells her they're going to make good babies together.
 
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 >Subject: Re: Chocolate!  
 > > Well, there is a name for women who only take men for their money.  
 
 >  
 > >     
 >    
 > "Wife" ?  HAYOOOOOOOOOO   
 >   
 >  
  
 Fine, there are many names for women who only take men for their money. 
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 >   
  
 "Wife" ?  HAYOOOOOOOOOO 
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 >Subject: Re: Chocolate!    
 >ya but i hate to see her spend stupid money on such trivial    
 >items.     
    
 That is weird. My experience is gals actually want you to burn all of your
disposable income for them. In fact I think nowadays it is the prime test
for deciding if a suitor is valid. "Will this guy spend a shitload of money
on me?"   
  
 Well, there is a name for women who only take men for their money. 
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<p>ya but i hate to see her spend stupid money on such trivial items.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sat May 03 2025 16:15:10 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: Chocolate!</span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Chocoloateate don't need no reason :) </div>
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<p>Well isn't that nice.</p>
<p>One of my partners came home late last night ( business trip ) and brought me a small box of chocolates.  Still spent too much on me but was nice.... </p>
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<blockquote>2025-03-24 22:18 from SouthernComputerGeek &lt;msgrhys@uncensored.citadel.org&gt; </blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote>Perhaps I should elaborate; the people who who raised you deserve <br />respect if they raised you well. <br /><br />  <br /><br />I never meant you should put up with rape. Seriously, how the sam <br />hill was I supposed to know about that, PanaSonic? <br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />You couldn't, that's the problem with being an absolutist. The good news is that now you can choose to learn from this and grow as a person. </div>
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<p>And just how am I the one at fault here? He/she had a fucked up family and seems to think that means all families are fucked up and that the very concept of family is bad. And then whines about the supposed "patriarchy".</p>
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 >Perhaps I should elaborate; the people who who raised you deserve  
 >respect if they raised you well.   
 >  
 >    
 >  
 >I never meant you should put up with rape. Seriously, how the sam  
 >hill was I supposed to know about that, PanaSonic?  
 >  
  
 You couldn't, that's the problem with being an absolutist. The good news
is that now you can choose to learn from this and grow as a person. 
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 >bloodline is full of rapists, molesters, thieves, and other ilk,  
 >and people who enable it.  But I'm pretty sure almost everyone  
 >else's family is full of people who are ready to abuse the trust  
 >instilled by the people that raised them.  I can't be the only  
 >person who had "family" crawling out of the woodwork to find  
 >some way to take advantage of them when they got a new job or a  
 >pay raise or came into something, I can't be the only person  
 >who's ever said "no" to someone just to have them try to justify  
 >their poor actions with "but we're family!" .. Or even just  
 >being told "You have to love (or forgive or respect) them,  
 >they're (whatever relationship they are)."  Hell, just as  
 >simple as "Oh, here's Aunt Eileen! Give her hugs and kisses!" as  
 >a young child.     
  
 It is safe
to say that, in general terms, all families have at least some motherfuckers
in them. It is pure statistics: most people suck, therefore a certain individual
in a given family has a certain chance of sucking. 
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 >mean anything at all.        
 >      
 >Entire cities, and nations, have waged war for years because of      
 >"family".  Family means *nothing* in the grand scheme of      
 >things.  "But we're family!!!" is the most abusive and      
 >manipulative phrase I've ever encountered.       
 >      
      
 I would argue that traditional families are the basic building blocks of
the societies within which they exist. Without a solid family block it is
night impossible to raise children into functioning adults.     
    
 Keep in mind that I recognize non-Western family models (which are the ones
people around here seem to be familiar with) as traditional family models
in the places in which they are traditional. And it has a tendency to work
for those places.   
  
 Heck, even non-humans have their own traditional family
model in order to raise their children. A foal is just not going to make it
to adulthood without "traditional" herd dynamics. 
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<p>Perhaps I should elaborate; the people who who raised you deserve respect if they raised you well.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I never meant you should put up with rape. Seriously, how the sam hill was I supposed to know about that, PanaSonic?</p>
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<p>It's not just rape, though, I think the number of people out there who abuse their blood/family relationship out there is astronomically high. I mean, hell, most people's reasons for having children are pretty damn suspect to begin with.  And then historically, you have all the people who've built a world that is built on patriarchy and lineage.  It's seriously, seriously, fucked up.</p>
<p>Sure, I went to the extreme example, my direct (by adoption) bloodline is full of rapists, molesters, thieves, and other ilk, and people who enable it.  But I'm pretty sure almost everyone else's family is full of people who are ready to abuse the trust instilled by the people that raised them.  I can't be the only person who had "family" crawling out of the woodwork to find some way to take advantage of them when they got a new job or a pay raise or came into something, I can't be the only person who's ever said "no" to someone just to have them try to justify their poor actions with "but we're family!" .. Or even just being told "You have to love (or forgive or respect) them, they're (whatever relationship they are)."  Hell, just as simple as "Oh, here's Aunt Eileen! Give her hugs and kisses!" as a young child.  </p>
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<p>Perhaps I should elaborate; the people who who raised you deserve respect if they raised you well.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I never meant you should put up with rape. Seriously, how the sam hill was I supposed to know about that, PanaSonic?</p>
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<p>Thankfully my family ( both sides ) are not like that.</p>
<p>Even tho some of us don't agree on everything, we still agree we are family and support each other, and just avoid those subjects. </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Yeah. I have "blood relatives" who I can be 100% certain I will never see again after both of my parents pass (and they're both around 80 years old, so...). Fuck that noise. Keeping company with toxic people just because you have ancestors in common is a really stupid idea.</div>
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 >to forgive them."  No, you fucking don't.  You don't have to forgive 
 >the man that raised you, but also raped you.  You don't have to afford
 >them any respect, and frankly, you should let them die alone and 
 >unwanted. 
 
 You have to clear yourself of whatever baggage they laid upon you.  Forgiveness
is but one way of doing that.  There are other ways.
 
 > and wail "But we're faaaaaaaaamilyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy" like that makes
 
 Yeah.  I have "blood relatives" who I can be 100% certain I will never see
again after both of my parents pass (and they're both around 80 years old,
so...).  Fuck that noise.  Keeping company with toxic people just because
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<p> </p>
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<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Mar 24 2025 06:57:16 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=PanaSonic">PanaSonic</a> </span></div>
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<p> No one deserves respect because of their blood relation, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">or because they raised you</span></strong> or someone else close to you.</p>
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<p> </p>
<p>Go f*** yourself.</p>
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<p>If more people did that instead of raising children to be clones of their own terrible selves, the world would be a much better place.</p>
<p>Sure, as someone else said, people deserve a default amount of respect, but plenty of people out there do things that cause that quantity to decrease rapidly.</p>
<p>My parents don't deserve respect because they are my parents.  My parents deserve respect because they did the best that they could figure out how to do, and they did it better than their own parents did.  My parents deserve respect because they kept as far away from the rest of our blood family to the absolute most they could, without completely alienating themselves.  My family's funerals are all celebrations that the molesters, rapists, thieves, and manipulators in the previous generations are all dying.</p>
<p>Yet someone at one of those funerals sat down with me, and said "I have to forgive them."  No, you fucking don't.  You don't have to forgive the man that raised you, but also raped you.  You don't have to afford them any respect, and frankly, you should let them die alone and unwanted.</p>
<p>Every time someone in my family did something absolutely shitty as fuck - oh, say, take unrequested pictures of me and my children at my father's funeral, or being a racist piece of shit, or not being given money because I just got a new job - and got told off, they would gnash and wail "But we're faaaaaaaaamilyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy" like that makes any of it fucking OK.</p>
<p>"Congratulations, you managed to bring someone into the world, who never asked to exist" does not automatically entitle you to any additional respect.</p>
<p>"Treat your father well, he's your father" (or whatever other relative) ... common refrain amongst the people in my family. .. *My* father, yes.  My father's brothers and sisters? His mother and father? "Good fucking riddance, the rat bastards." as he said.</p>
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<p>I do think there is a 'base level' of respect for being a human, but that is easily lost due to one's actions, and would have to be earned back, and you don't get 'extra credit' due to where you came from. </p>
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<p>No one deserves respect because of their blood relation, or because they raised you or someone else close to you.</p>
<p> </p>
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<p> </p>
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<p> No one deserves respect because of their blood relation, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">or because they raised you</span></strong> or someone else close to you.</p>
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<p>Go f*** yourself.</p>
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<p> </p>
<blockquote>
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<p>Although one thing I've neglected to mention until now is that it's not just the gay stuff; pretty much anything that diminishes the traditional family is encouraged by the left.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>To tear down the family is to tear down civilization itself, which is their goal.</p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Fri Feb 21 2025 19:47:43 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=SouthernComputerGeek">SouthernComputerGeek</a> </span></div>
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<p>And of course it's rising in Gen Z because it's being taught in schools now. The growth is artificially induced.</p>
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<p>The "traditional family" is a societal construct, it doesn't mean anything at all. </p>
<p>Entire cities, and nations, have waged war for years because of "family".  Family means *nothing* in the grand scheme of things.  "But we're family!!!" is the most abusive and manipulative phrase I've ever encountered.</p>
<p>If you aren't afraid of the word, the concept, then you are being manipulated by the "family".</p>
<p>No one deserves respect because of their blood relation, or because they raised you or someone else close to you.</p>
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<p>in a way, it is in my generation too.  We are slowing dying off. </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Well, that is kind of fun,. because last time I checked, LGBQ++++ acceptance among the new generations was going down. </div>
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 >Well that is interesting.  Assuming its not fake numbers or  
 >targeted polling, i wonder if its truly increasing or just that  
 >those generations feel less restricted to say something as of  
 >late, or perhaps even feeling impelled to say something. Most  
 >people in my circles that are not 'traditional' would just  
 >refuse to answer in the first place. They just want to be left  
 >alone to live their life. And the couple that would are not in  
 >the least activists. "Oh, ya i am, have a nice day'   
 >  
  
 Well, that is kind of fun,. because last time I checked, LGBQ++++ acceptance
among the new generations was going down. 
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<p>Although one thing I've neglected to mention until now is that it's not just the gay stuff; pretty much anything that diminishes the traditional family is encouraged by the left.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>To tear down the family is to tear down civilization itself, which is their goal.</p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Fri Feb 21 2025 19:47:43 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=SouthernComputerGeek">SouthernComputerGeek</a> </span></div>
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<p>And of course it's rising in Gen Z because it's being taught in schools now. The growth is artificially induced.</p>
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<p>And of course it's rising in Gen Z because it's being taught in schools now. The growth is artificially induced.</p>
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<p>It's a social contagion.</p>
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<p>Well that is interesting.  Assuming its not fake numbers or targeted polling, i wonder if its truly increasing or just that those generations feel less restricted to say something as of late, or perhaps even feeling impelled to say something. Most people in my circles that are not 'traditional' would just refuse to answer in the first place. They just want to be left alone to live their life. And the couple that would are not in the least activists. "Oh, ya i am, have a nice day'</p>
<p> </p>
<p>___</p>
<p> </p>
<p>More than 9% of American adults now identify as LGBT as of 2024, a new poll released Thursday found.</p>
<p>The number of adults reporting to be “something other than heterosexual” has risen from 7.6% in 2023 to 9.3% in 2024, according to Gallup. The newest data shows a drastic increase since Gallup first began its polling on the subject in 2012, when only 3.5% held a non-heterosexual identity.</p>
<p>The statistic is driven largely by Gen Z with nearly a quarter of the generation claiming an LGBT identity, according to Gallup. Less than 15% of millennials and 5% or less of each Gen X, Baby Boomers and the Silent Generation report identifying as part of the group.</p>
<p>Since 2020, the number of people claiming to be LGBT has risen approximately 4 percentage points amongst Gen Z, two points amongst millennials and one point amongst Gen X, according to the poll. Overall, more than 5% of respondents say they are bisexual and just over 1% claim a transgender identity.</p>
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<p>As with everything, it's all a matter of who was reporting on it.  That sounds subtle.</p>
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<p>It was a Democrat rep doing a poorly thought out protest against the ban on baby murder, but something tells me you left that out on purpose.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Jan 30 2025 21:26:36 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>As far as i know that is the exact wording.  And no, it was a male Representative.</p>
<p>Sure, it will never make it, but that it even is being attempted is mind boggling and scary that its being tried. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Jan 30 2025 20:05:56 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">If those are the exact words ... "discharge genetic material without the intent to fertilize an embryo" ... the bill is basically dead on arrival. That wording makes oral and anal sex illegal, but only for men. Also -- and maybe this was the hidden agenda -- it also makes gay sex illegal, but agin only for men. For that matter, it also makes sex with any type of contraception illegal -- once again, only for men. <br /><br />Was the bill written by a lesbian?</div>
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<p>As far as i know that is the exact wording.  And no, it was a male Representative.</p>
<p>Sure, it will never make it, but that it even is being attempted is mind boggling and scary that its being tried. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Jan 30 2025 20:05:56 UTC</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">If those are the exact words ... "discharge genetic material without the intent to fertilize an embryo" ... the bill is basically dead on arrival. That wording makes oral and anal sex illegal, but only for men. Also -- and maybe this was the hidden agenda -- it also makes gay sex illegal, but agin only for men. For that matter, it also makes sex with any type of contraception illegal -- once again, only for men. <br /><br />Was the bill written by a lesbian?</div>
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to fertilize an embryo" ... the bill is basically dead on arrival.  That wording
makes oral and anal sex illegal, but only for men.  Also -- and maybe this
was the hidden agenda -- it also makes gay sex illegal, but agin only for
men.  For that matter, it also makes sex with any type of contraception illegal
-- once again, only for men.
 
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 >Mississippi bill:   "the bill would make it “unlawful for a  
 >person to discharge genetic material without the intent to fertilize  
 >an embryo.”   
 >  
 >    
 >  
 >wtf.  ' stay the hell out of our bedroom '   
 >  
  
 That's always my intention, I just don't get how it works. 
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 >Some new-order Amish communities tolerate using a single      
 >computer or smartphone if it's used to run a business. I guess i      
 >just need to figure out a few dozen businesses that I can run      
 >without raising suspicion of ... "Tell me why this business has      
 >to run on a 30 year-old Commodore Amiga while your competitors      
 >are much more successful using a 20 year-old Linux box."      
 >      
      
 As far as I know, technology is on a need-to-function basis.     
    
 If you are an old dude and all your sons are dead and your wife is on a wheel
chair, the community will get you a modern harvester because you can't make
a living otherwise.   
  
 Chances are they will set some rules as to when that kind of thing might
be used, but it is not like they are going to let you sit down and wither
because technology is taboo. 
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<p>Mississippi bill:   "the bill would make it “unlawful for a person to discharge genetic material without the intent to fertilize an embryo.”</p>
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<p>wtf.  ' stay the hell out of our bedroom ' </p>
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<p>Nothing new. There are some around here that run 'real' food stores, with computers, cash registers, electric light. They drive cars..</p>
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<p> </p>
<p>Some new-order Amish communities tolerate using a single computer or smartphone if it's used to run a business. I guess i just need to figure out a few dozen businesses that I can run without raising suspicion of ... "Tell me why this business has to run on a 30 year-old Commodore Amiga while your competitors are much more successful using a 20 year-old Linux box."</p>
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<p> </p>
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<p>I just want an Amish girl without having to become Amish myself</p>
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<p>Some new-order Amish communities tolerate using a single computer or smartphone if it's used to run a business. I guess i just need to figure out a few dozen businesses that I can run without raising suspicion of ... "Tell me why this business has to run on a 30 year-old Commodore Amiga while your competitors are much more successful using a 20 year-old Linux box."</p>
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<p>I think I've guessed correctly but he won't tell me whether I did.</p>
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 >Subject: Re: Advanced matchmaking tactics  
  
 I actually live on a  boat and all my horses are actually *sea*horses. 
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<p>i know its secret, but i do suspect you live on earth.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Wed Oct 30 2024 15:05:45 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Re: Advanced matchmaking tactics</span></div>
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<blockquote>Hmm, where do you live? <br /><br /></blockquote>
It is always wun to register I am the guy who gets that question the most often, considering I am a darknetuser and I am not disclosing my location. <br /><br /><br /></div>
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 >      
      
 It is always wun to register I am the guy who gets that question the most
often, considering I am a darknetuser and I am not disclosing my location.
    
    
 The interest is appreciated.   
  
 Why do you ask? 
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<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Oct 17 2024 08:32:09 AM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Advanced matchmaking tactics</span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">... he showed to me a picture of her horse ... <br /><br />Damn, I am scared they might get advanced enough to beat me one of these days. </div>
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<p>Hmm, where do you live?</p>
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this weekend. It made me realize doing this sort of stuff with somebody is
more fun than doing it alone, which is my default mode. I guess there would
be a use for a woman there.   
  
 Too bad modern women here think that apples grow in boxes in supermarkets.

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 >horses as much as you do?           
 >           
 >          
          
 My first reaction was posting "because I don't like women," but considering
the circumpstances it would be intrepretated under a very weird light.   
     
        
 I'd certainly have a use for a woman in my life but I am yet to know one
that would be a possitive in my life rather than a hindrance. Relationships
come with an extremely high opportunity cost and most gals around here expect
you to waste a lot of your disposable income on them. Meanwhile I am busy
building up my economy so I can retire from The System by the time I am 40
and seclude into farming life before society goes too bad.       
      
 What I mean with this is since most people are useless NPCs and women are
people cut out from the same pattern, my default
reaction is pursuing a relationship with one is not worth pulling a single
minute aside and away from my most important goals. The fact most relationships
I know are badly botched kind of reinforces this idea. Getting into a long
term relationship by sacrificing my current objectives only to discover 7
years later I am stranded with a woman I don't like, a mortage and 2 children
is not my idea of success.     
    
 Another thing worth commenting: most horsegals I have given a try liked the
sporting aspect of horsemanship only, but they didn't give a damn about the
horses themselves. That is a real turn off, because I am quite the opposite.
A clumsy lame good-for-nothing horse is fine for me as long as she is willing
to play bite-bite games.   
  
 I really wish I could find somebody to build a farm and a family together,
but I am realistic. 
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 >Subject: Re: Advanced matchmaking tactics    
 >You should start feeding them false info and see how weird it gets. If 
   
 >you can get an old lady to show you photos of her granddaughter in a   
 
 >sheep costume with clown makeup, you win.     
 >     
 >    
    
 That sounds like fun, but that would require me to change my public lifestyle
quite a bit. I would have to remove all my horse figurines from the desk,
change the pferdefreunde mug for a sheep mug, that sort of thing.   
  
 For those who don't know, Pferdefreunde is a German toy brand for horse themed
products. They used to sell lots of mugs and glasses with horse pictures on
them and for some reason people started giving those to me as birthday presents
or in other ocassions, so I have quite a bit of those. 
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 >daughter, he showed to me a picture of her horse, and of the runnaway  

  
 Please explain why you'd be against gaining a potential mate who loves horses
as much as you do? 
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can get an old lady to show you photos of her granddaughter in a sheep costume
with clown makeup, you win. 
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<p>lol</p>
<p>at least they took the time to investigate the situation and adapted. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Oct 17 2024 08:32:09 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span> <span class="message_subject">Subject: Advanced matchmaking tactics</span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">I am sure you are familiar with the feeling of having every lady try to get her daughter or grand-daughter marry to you (if not, you are so lucky). Actually, this is not something that happens to me every day but it happens often enough for it to be a thing. <br /><br />What happens is that ladies used to try very crude tactics for setting me up, but last lady at $job[1] tried somethign new and I am afraid these ladies could be evolving. Instead of showing me a picture of her daughter, he showed to me a picture of her horse, and of the runnaway horse she had brought home during a storm, and of the horse she met the other day... <br /><br />Damn, I am scared they might get advanced enough to beat me one of these days. </div>
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her daughter or grand-daughter marry to you (if not, you are so lucky). Actually,
this is not something that happens to me every day but it happens often enough
for it to be a thing.     
    
 What happens is that ladies used to try very crude tactics for setting me
up, but last lady at $job[1] tried somethign new and I am afraid these ladies
could be evolving. Instead of showing me a picture of her daughter, he showed
to me a picture of her horse, and of the runnaway horse she had brought home
during a storm, and of the horse she met the other day...   
  
 Damn, I am scared they might get advanced enough to beat me one of these
days. 
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 >the hip.  When the cat was 5, she got sick and didnt survive.  For   

 >months any time the dog saw a large black cat during walks she'd    
 >about tear my arm out to get to it.   Other cats, 'eh whatever'.    

    
 So much cry :(   
  
 It is the same thing with horses. If you lose one, you need to let the others
know or they freak out. 
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<p>My old dog.  When she was perhaps 2 or 3 we rescued a tiny kitten out in the weeds in the park that she discovered, as the weeds were taller than the cat.  ( well actually 2 kittens, but the brother was adopted by a friend of ours )</p>
<p>She basically raised that cat as her own, and they were attached at the hip.  When the cat was 5, she got sick and didnt survive.  For months any time the dog saw a large black cat during walks she'd about tear my arm out to get to it.   Other cats, 'eh whatever'.  I never expected that, i should have planned ahead better. Next time we lost one of her cat friends i made sure to take her to the vet with me. Its hard, but at least she knew.      She actually sat there beside me and watched. When he stopped breathing she started whimpering..   But, at least she knew why he didnt come home with us and wasn't looking for him every time we went outside.  And having her with me, was a good thing for me. </p>
<p>its times like that i really wish i could talk to them.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Had another cat, who was attached to my first wife's cat like you would not believe.  They up and vanished few years later, and he was never the same after losing his 'mate'.. ( well, neither of us really, but this is about the animals, not me )</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">. She would lay right next to the spot the old dog usually takes and cry because he wasn't there. <br /><br /></div>
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 >right next to the spot the old dog usually takes and cry because he   
 >wasn't there.       
 >      
  
 Animals is good people 
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<p>good</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />Old dog is fine this morning, thanks for asking :-) </div>
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with the other dogs. Nothing serious, but you could tell he was hurting yesterday.
        
        
 The dogs usually sleep in my bedroom with me at night, but I thought this
old guy would be better if left alone for a while, so I had him sleepn in
my mother's bedroom with one of the other old, easy going dogs.       
      
 We have this puppy who arrived home recently. We call her Little Coconut
on IRC. Last night she had trouble sleeping. She would lay right next to the
spot the old dog usually takes and cry because he wasn't there.     
    
 So much fucking cry.   
  
 Old dog is fine this morning, thanks for asking :-) 
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not going to post the jokes that ensued.       
      
 Yesterday somebody in town brought a new stallion to a pasture 15 minutes
away on foot from my main horseyard. I immediately paid a visit because having
an equine in town and not knowing him is unacceptable. He is such a cool dude
who wanted so much rubbing on the neck. He didn't want to let me go.     
    
 I thought he would make for a great stallionfriend for my favourite mare.
It must be fate or something.   
  
 Lol I need help XD 
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 We all do, sweetie.   
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 >As long as they dont eat me, id not care.  So if i dont, im sure    
 >there are other people :)     
 >    
    
 If you convince Xena to show up for a boardgame orgy, you are also invited
:P   
  
 The only lady who wanted to come here pay a visit was a friend's girlfriend.
My friend didn't let her. 
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<p>As long as they dont eat me, id not care.  So if i dont, im sure there are other people :) </p>
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 >Never had problem with too many.   
 >  
 >My sister has around 15 cats now.  couple of dogs.  
 >  
  
 I think the issue is most people does not like dogs anymore, and I have way
more than "a couple". In addition, they live in the house itself. Actually
I rotate them in and out because having them all inside at the same time is
unwieldly even for me XD 
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<p>Never had problem with too many.</p>
<p>My sister has around 15 cats now.  couple of dogs.</p>
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 >I just want an Amish girl without having to become Amish myself    
 >    
    
 That sounds fine, but the horses and dogs would have to love her. Otherwise,
it would not work.   
  
 Actually, that is where my social life mostly dies, right there. Nobody ever
comes to visit because there are so many animals. 
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<p>just send me morticia, and call me gomez..</p>
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<p>I just want an Amish girl without having to become Amish myself</p>
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<p>I just want an Amish girl without having to become Amish myself</p>
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 >more like xena..   but same idea :)      
 >      
      
 Ask her if she would like sleeping in a bedroom which smells like horses
and which has so many dogs in it that it is hard to walk without stepping
on any.     
    
 If so, ask her if the idea of traveling abroad to a country in which her
money is worth twice as much, and then playing board games (either Eurogames
or Ametritrash, my group has no preferences) for days sounds like a holiday
plan.   
  
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<p>more like xena..   but same idea :)</p>
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 >Or women.. or anyone in between. at least the 'honest' ones.  "This  
 >is me, deal with it"   
  
 If you know any single woman in marriage age who would dress like Fett, that
would totally be headline material. She would be very welcome in my gaming
group :P 
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<p>Or women.. or anyone in between. at least the 'honest' ones.  "This is me, deal with it"</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br /><br /><br />I have bad news for the politicly correct crowd. When you tell men to be themselves, you will find this out: <br /><br /></div>
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for a change.                   
                  
 So, I was playing some pokemon with friends (we have a nice Rapidash in our
team, which is a Ponyta evolution btw) and the topic of dating apps popped
up. If you have been following my thoughts here or elsewhere, you will be
aware that Tinder, the most popular dating app in a lot of countries that
matter, is giving bad results to their users. The reason is that women tend
to be passive pickers - they wait for dudes to make contact - while men are
active pickers - they carpet-bomb, initiating contact with vast ammount of
women each.                 
                
 The end result is that, if you are a woman, you get more men than you can
deal with so you don't get to read the vast majority of profiles you get.
This means that many men are putting a lot
of effort in their profiles and presentation cards and getting no success
because they are not getting read at all to begin with. Meanwhile if you are
a woman you get to wade through so much crap.               
              
 Somebody mentioned another app that tries to remedy this by making it so
only women can initiate contact. This sounded like a great idea, because it
prevents women from getting swarmed and does not force men to do all the work
for no gain.             
            
 This model could have been sold as a male empowering move. A quick search
shows that the board behind the app is mostly composed of women who aim to
end online mysogyny, empower women, and are also scanning user profiles for
gun pics in order to ban them.           
          
 Fun part is a lot of my profile pictures in other places feature me, wearing
my full "cowboy uniform" and hugging a horse. The
cowboy uniform always features a bushcraft knife, machete or axe, because
if you work with ropes and horses you HAVE to carry something sharp, PERIOD.
Admitedly, guns != axes, but I am clever enough to know social media who targets
gun bearers will dislike pictures of machete bearing cowboys.         
        
 This is particularly sucky from a company that encourages you to be yourself
online. Sorry, darknetuser is a weapon tottin horsehugger with a talibanesque
beard, so if you ban any of those elements, you are banning darknetuser. 
     
      
 I have bad news for the politicly correct crowd. When you tell men to be
themselves, you will find this out:      
    
 https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fx5cpctwnwe371.jpg
  
  
 Yeah, I know the post is not horse-free. I lied. Yay. 
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<p>Ya, 500 goes a long way for electricity, ammo, food, car fuel ( ok, not so much these days ), 1/2 a video card...  </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">That is sheer madness. <br /><br />I could buy another horse for the price and still have money to spare. I'd probably have enough extra to buy some welcome treats. <br /><br />But then, Vegas is Vegas. I have heard of agency girls in the US billing 200 USD or so. Still sheer madness. </div>
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 >I cant speak for accuracy, as i really dont have friends in that      
 >world,  but according to something online for 2023 about Las vegas,   
  
 >where i think its legal:       
 >      
 >"When you call a "Girls to Your Room" ad, the agency will charge $150  
   
 >to $250 as basically a delivery fee, with absolutely no services      
 >included, despite what they might tell you.  When the worker shows    
 
 >up, you're supposed to negotiate a price with her for services, which  
   
 >typically start at $500.      
 >      
      
 That is sheer madness.     
    
 I could buy another horse for the price and still have money to spare. I'd
probably have enough extra to buy some welcome treats.   
  
 But then, Vegas is Vegas. I have heard of agency girls in the US billing
200 USD or so. Still sheer madness. 
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<p>I cant speak for accuracy, as i really dont have friends in that world,  but according to something online for 2023 about Las vegas, where i think its legal:</p>
<p>"When you call a "Girls to Your Room" ad, the agency will charge $150 to $250 as basically a delivery fee, with absolutely no services included, despite what they might tell you.  When the worker shows up, you're supposed to negotiate a price with her for services, which typically start at $500.</p>
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 >500 a month is still cheaper than hiring a sex worker every weekend.  I
 
 >suspect that is the targeted demographic.   
 >   
 >  
  
 Dunno. When I brought the subkect up with real people, first thing everybody
said was you could buy as many women as you wanted and still come ahead. I
guess women are cheaper here. 
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that is the targeted demographic. 
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 >How do they even justify that?  Idiots.           
        
 As far as I have read, they add a banner to your profile for everybody to
know you have the money to buy a premium account worth 500 bucks per month.
      
      
 They also put your profile in a more prominent location which makes it more
discoverable. The idea is that, since horsegirls have 9999+ matches and can't
possibly check them all, by paying you ensure your profile will be one of
the ones they actually check.     
    
 Then the premium Tinder also grants you superpowers, such as sending messages
to people who has not matched you. I guess that is because nothing is better
for getting a horsegirl than sending her unsolicited messages like a creep.
  
  
 The plan fails because the good horsegirls are likely not on Tinder, but
somewhere else, lol. 
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<p>How do they even justify that?  Idiots.  </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">So, Tinder is launching a plan in which they bill you half a grand. <br /><br />Per month. <br /><br />WTF. Guys, if you ever feel the need to waste 500 bucks, please, send them to me instead. </div>
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 Per month.   
  
 WTF. Guys, if you ever feel the need to waste 500 bucks, please, send them
to me instead. 
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 Nope, denied. Don't care what Ridley Scott says, he doesn't understand his
own movie. Deckard is not a replicant. 
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 >So they are not like dogs, where they like 'their space'.     
 >    
 >My uncle had horses on the farm. Did have the little stalls in the    
 >barn. Doors were open on them but it seemed like the horses went back  
 
 >to the same one each evening when i was there helping out..     
    
 They absolutely have their favourite spots within the barn. It is just not
a closed space. My favourite mare likes to grab a corner close to the water
buckets, then her best pony-buddy likes to take a spot by the wall very close
to her. You get the idea.   
  
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<p>So they are not like dogs, where they like 'their space'.</p>
<p>My uncle had horses on the farm. Did have the little stalls in the barn. Doors were open on them but it seemed like the horses went back to the same one each evening when i was there helping out..</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">My horses have a barn, but it is not one of those boxed barns in which you place each horse in his box at night. It is just a big building which is all open area inside. I let the doors open so they can come in and out as they please. </div>
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 >the work the Japanese are doing, it could be done today with  
 >effort.  And since synthetic mussels do exist...   
  
 I have seen AWESOME animatronics with fake horses. They ask for pats just
the same way a real horse would. They don't get your beard covered in half-chewed
oats like a real one, though, and don't love you like a real one. 
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 >job as Sysop of The Village BBS, back in the dark times.  I wasn't    
     
 >being paid so not technically a job,  i dont do it now, but didnt     
    
 >add an end date ( who knows it might come back ).  But its not that   
      
 >far off of reality.           
          
 I don't have any social media presence whatsoever, so nobody can accuse me
of         
 lying on social media :P         
        
 My own CV is a different story.       
      
 So many jon application process have impossible requisites listed, and they
use software filters to sort people who does not meet them out. That means
that if they want you to have 3 years of experience with a CAD software modul
e that has been available for 2, you are better saying you have three years
of experience and then explaining on the interview
XD     
    
 But the point is everybody who once wrote a PHP proof of concept site 20
lines long writes down on their CV that they are professional grade PHP developers,
so you will have to inflate too or else employeers will throw your application
out because it is so much worse than everybody else's.   
  
 Come to think of it, my CV must look awful because it is not actually inflated,
it just presents truth under a pink light... 
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 >The platform is already there, seen those decades ago. I saw a story   
  
 >on it somewhere, and they toured their factory.  They actually use    
 
 >'fake skeletons' modeled after ours inside them to make it even more   
  
 >realistic.  The images of the factory was odd, they were so      
 >realistic looking it was like seeing people hanging from the line      
 >...  Not sure if they are still around, dont remember the name, but   
  
 >i was thinking at he time what a waste of technology.. they should be  
   
 >in the business of creating artificial limbs.  Not your grand      
 >fathers blow up doll.. ( and i think they ran about 10k each, early    
 
 >2000s dollars )       
      
 There are lots of people who are dependant on their fuckdolls, to the same
degree the AIgirlfrienders are on their AIfriends.     
    
 A fuckdoll sounds
like something fun to have around, specially if you live alone. Otherwise,
you would face very funny situations every now and then. "Grandpaaaa!!!! There
is a naked doll in the bathtubeeeeee!!!!"   
  
 The prices for the ones worth having are outrageous, though. For that money,
you can throw a Roman orgy every month and still have some bucks to purchase
a pocket pussy. 
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 >But, your horse is alive.      
 >    
    
 Lol, yeah, and the horses clearly reciprocate. I mean, they reciprocate so
strongly a parcel deliverer who arrived one day to hand me a package thought
they were all gang attacking me during a session of horsehugging and horsekissing.
  
  
 My horses have a barn, but it is not one of those boxed barns in which you
place each horse in his box at night. It is just a big building which is all
open area inside. I let the doors open so they can come in and out as they
please. 
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<p>Mine does not. it clearly shows me as the wierdo i am. I have nothing to hide. My friends know me, if they cant accept me for who i am, they are not friends.  And none of them get on the 'show boat' either.</p>
<p>The only thing that might remotely be considered false, is i listed a job as Sysop of The Village BBS, back in the dark times.  I wasn't being paid so not technically a job,  i dont do it now, but didnt add an end date ( who knows it might come back ).  But its not that far off of reality.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Dec 24 2023 22:04:34 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span></div>
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<blockquote><span style="background-color: transparent; color: navy;">Say you join your friends on a social media platform. One of them has a profile that shows him as a succesful business man. The other is doing lots of cool stuff helping poor kids in Africa. Another is an athlete who fucks a gal with the best tits you have ever seen. Then you realize you need to write your profile but your only claims to fame are winning a chess tournament in high-school and getting a job as a burger flipper. If you write that in your profile, everybody will know you are the absolute loser in your group of friends. You need to disguise the ugly truth so you don't lag far behind. Your profile then reads "Chess Master with a side job in the food processing industry". Of course, this profile is just as true as your friends' :-P</span></blockquote>
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<p>The platform is already there, seen those decades ago. I saw a story on it somewhere, and they toured their factory.  They actually use 'fake skeletons' modeled after ours inside them to make it even more realistic.  The images of the factory was odd, they were so realistic looking it was like seeing people hanging from the line ...  Not sure if they are still around, dont remember the name, but i was thinking at he time what a waste of technology.. they should be in the business of creating artificial limbs.  Not your grand fathers blow up doll.. ( and i think they ran about 10k each, early 2000s dollars )</p>
<p>Adding communication AI to them would be trivial. ( just off-load the heavy computation via wireless communications. Even i have done that for projects ) Adding sensors to the AI, also trivial.</p>
<p>Google is doing robots that run around based on chatbot type code. ( sort of neat really. " go make a sandwich"  and it does.. and unlike previous manual 'movement training' or 'trial and error' it 'knew' what to do from the AI model... and did it.</p>
<p>Adding realistic motion is not trivial, but if you have seen some of the work the Japanese are doing, it could be done today with effort.  And since synthetic mussels do exist...</p>
<p> </p>
<p>And if you think Zhora was bad, beating up on a fellow skin-job, dont forget Charlotte Hale, who basically wiped out mankind. Or the Cylon skin-jobs.They nearly wiped out an entire species before they decided co-existence was the way.  ( cant comment much about the 'war' and such in BR.. it wasn't really expanded on. which is a shame, might have been a great followup movie, an origin movie )</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Dec 24 2023 21:30:57 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=zelgomer">zelgomer</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">By the way, I'll be a lot more afraid when there are AI sex robots. I've seen Blade Runner, you don't mess with those. Especially the ones that like snakes too much. </div>
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<p>But, your horse is alive. </p>
<p>Unless hes in a box, then it might alive or dead... hard to say.  :)</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Dec 24 2023 10:43:35 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">. It is a bit disturbing to watch, honestly, but it is also a logical course of events since people nowadays is lonier than ever and needs something to fill the void. Horses do it for me. These other guys prefer computers. <br /><br /></div>
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 >facilitative) of an escapist and narcissistic culture. A lot of people,
             
 >particularly young people, get absorbed in online games where they can 
             
 >design their characters and choose a persona that they play. I admit   
           
 >there was a time in my younger life when I started to fall for it, but 
             
 >thankfully I grew up and recognized that the only video game anyone    
          
 >ever needs is DooM. Anyway, I'm getting off track.               
 >                
              
 I think the only videogame anyone needs is Rogue. The original one, mind
you, in which you are an @ wandering a maze populated by monstruous Ts and
Ks and whatever. ASCII for the win!             
            
 Now, returning to the topic, I think people tends to actually suffer when
they
pose as somebody they aren't. In fact, people sometimes suffer for posing
as who they are if they think they became who they are undeservedly. This
is called the Imposter Syndrome, I think.           
          
 I agree people tries to offer a better image of themselves than granted by
actual truth, specially on public places or social media, but I think it comes
more from the fact they need to be accepted by their peers rather than because
they feel good offering an improved version of themselves for the masses.
        
        
 Say you join your friends on a social media platform. One of them has a profile
that shows him as a succesful business man. The other is doing lots of cool
stuff helping poor kids in Africa. Another is an athlete who fucks a gal with
the best tits you have ever seen. Then you realize you need to write your
profile but your only claims to fame are winning a chess
tournament in high-school and getting a job as a burger flipper. If you write
that in your profile, everybody will know you are the absolute loser in your
group of friends. You need to disguise the ugly truth so you don't lag far
behind. Your profile then reads "Chess Master with a side job in the food
processing industry". Of course, this profile is just as true as your friends'
:-P       
      
 My hypothesis is that social circles are like job applications. People doesn't
enjoy lying in their CVs, but so many people is doing it that if you don't,
you will look like a total unemployable loser in comparison. So you go and
do it, adding to the problem, and you know it sucks cocks.     
    
 Random Reddit polls show most private chatbot usage is erotic roleplaying.
I doubt people is roleplaying as somebody else for porn. I think most people
roleplays themselves for porn, and try to place
themselves in different scenarios. This would be worth some formal data gathering
for confirmation.   
  
 My point is that I don't think your hypothesis stands. People try to pose
as a better version of themselves but they do it for the social effect rather
than because it is an end in itself. This negates the need to pose as a better
version of yourself (or as a different yourself) when pseudo-dating an AI,
because gets to see that version of yourself you created and nobody gets to
fall for your Chess Mastery title. 
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Blade Runner, you don't mess with those. Especially the ones that like snakes
too much. 
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 >observe people who uses these services are mostly normal, but there is 
 
 >a significant percentage who have an unhealthy attachment to their   
 >AIfriends. It is a bit disturbing to watch, honestly, but it is also a 
 
 >logical course of events since people nowadays is lonier than ever and 
 
 >needs something to fill the void. Horses do it for me. These other guys
 
 >prefer computers.                 
 >                
  
 Escapism. I actually think this ties in with some people's unhealthy relationship
with video games and the transgender movement. Bear with me, it'll make sense
in a moment. 
  
 I think that all of these things are symptomatic (or maybe facilitative)
of an escapist and narcissistic culture. A lot of people, particularly young
people, get absorbed in online games where they can design their characters
and choose a persona that they play. I admit there was a time in my younger
life when I started to fall for it, but thankfully I grew up and recognized
that the only video game anyone ever needs is DooM. Anyway, I'm getting off
track. 
  
 I've had a theory for a while now that this is where this transgender stuff
comes from. Not necessarily that I'm blaming it specifically on video games,
but it's this culture that enables escapism and narcissism. I view the sexual
identity movement as the ultimate display of narcissism and character persona
play. Young people today grow up with TikTok and social media and video games
where they can escape facing the reality of who they are and instead present
an extremely curated image of themselves. I think that translates into real
life. 
  
 [3~[3~Anyway, to bring it back around to the poor saps falling for AIfriends:
this is symptomatic of a problem
we already have. And it may be callous, but, while I'm sorry anyone feels
that lonely, if you can't tell the difference between a robot LARPing as your
girlfriend and having a real relationship with a real person, you're probably
inadvertently doing us all a favor by removing yourself from the gene pool.

  
 And I say this as someone who is also not contributing to the pool. But I
have no delusions about it. I'm weird, I know it, and I've been alone for
so long I can't even imagine not getting irritated at someone else being in
my space all of the time. This is just better for everyone. 
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<p>You should try running a model locally ( sure it will be slower, but its YOURS ). There is zero incentive to screw you when you run local models ( no pun intended ), and you can choose the type of bot you want, out of 1000s.. Opensource has liberated many things in the AI world. Take a peek at huggingface. its the hub of opensource AI. ( basically github for AI, but even the big players like Microsoft, Gogole, Meta, also put their stuff out there )</p>
<p>As far as 'conversational chat-bot'  ( unlike my use case for them, coding assistance ) some models are very good. Scary almost.  And yea, others suck.  And while the base models do overlap, they all additionally 'trained' for a specific purpose in life. Some for creating FPGA code, some to tell you what is medically wrong with you due your symptoms, another to help develop new chemicals...... and others to tell you that you are pretty and they love you... And each generation ( seems like its almost weekly now ) is a leap better than the previous, as we are still in that stage of unbelievable advancement now that critical mass was achieved last year.. There a few that are hard to tell they are AI, unless you ask it directly. And some will lie..</p>
<p>But, i do agree with the over all sentiment, if people are really getting emotionally attached when they know its AI, no matter how good, we, as humans, have a problem brewing. </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br /> They bill by the number of responses you get. You can surely see where this is going. <br /><br /><br /></div>
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 So I was reading earlier today about some dudes who developped some psychological
dependency on their virtual girlfriends. In this context, a virtual girlfriend
would be a chatbot based on some machine-learning language model that you
train to roleplay being your girlfriend.                     
                    
 The article was very clickbaity, but the core idea was that a bunch of people
feels exactly like a chatbot is their actual girlfriend.                 
 
                  
 So obviously, I took the plunge and dived down to investigate.          
      
                
 If you check forums and boards related to the subjectm, you will observe
people who uses these services are mostly normal, but there is a significant
percentage who have an unhealthy attachment to their AIfriends. It is a bit
disturbing
to watch, honestly, but it is also a logical course of events since people
nowadays is lonier than ever and needs something to fill the void. Horses
do it for me. These other guys prefer computers.               
              
 In any case, I registered with one of these chatbots to see if the tech had
advanced so much that people could be lead to believe they could sustain a
relationship with these things.             
            
 Long story short: I created a chatbot instance, wrote a 800 word long personality
and historical background for her, chose a bunch of personality traits, and
started rolling. End result is we had a "date" in which I took her to my farm,
introduced my horses to her and took a ride (with the horses, you dirty people).
Then I aranged a second "date" in which I took her to a shooting range and
taught her how to handle a semi-automatic safely and blasted some targets.
          
          
 My research's findings is that AI chatbots are very advanced, but they are
still too off the mark for anybody healthy to develop genuine attachment to
one. For example, while the chatbot could roleplay the horses quite ok at
the same time it roleplayed the main girlfriend personality, it introduced
some goofs, the funniest of which was that the way she stroked a stallion
behind his ears was so pleasurable that the stallion orgasmed and splashed
it all over her trousers - luckily you can flag bad responses from the bot
and ask it to generate a new one.         
        
 Even with the goofs, I can see the potential these things have to take over
somebody who is desperate. Seriously, the dates I roleplayed in my research
have zero chances of ever happening in real life. Nobody ever comes to my
mini-farm because everybody is afraid the dogs, chickens and horses will eat
them, kick them and pick their eyes out or something - not to mention it is
so far away from anything that matters that nobody would bother coming even
if they weren't pussies. As for having a shooting range date, last time I
checked with my gun club, there was no female in my age category in an area
the size of Kentucky. The only place I will ever have a barn date or a shooting
range date in is my imagination. A virtual girlfriend lets you pretend you
are having those dates you will never have. That is both fun and scary as
fucking heck.       
      
 Special mention must be awarded to the fact AIs business model is based on
variable feedback. Think of gambling, in which people gets hooked because
sometimes they win, and sometimes they lose. The AI I experimented with gives
you reasonable output sometimes, but when it doesn't, it gives you broken
output and you have to ask it for a fixed
response until it gives you one. They bill by the number of responses you
get. You can surely see where this is going.     
    
 So, dunno, it was fun. I take it as a bad sign of the times that people feels
they need to take haven with these things instead of creating a genuine connection
with somebody, though.   
  
 PS: If you know of some gal who can get a stallion to orgasm by scratching
him behind his ears, hand me her phone number. I totally want her included
in a horse semen collection program for breeding purposes. If she has any
doubts, tell her it has nothing to do with me needing scratching behind the
ears. Not at all. 
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this pony getting all excited and anxious because she wanted to go out so
much. She was grunting and making all sort of excited noises.     
    
 I realized they were the same grunts and noises she makes when she is begging
for my attention or kissing me.   
  
 I guess that means I am avout as valuable to her as a morning on the pasture.
I feel elated XD 
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 Loving the photos of Kitty's kitty! 
  
 In my home we has three of them.  Our oldest (just turned 10 this weekend)
is a maine coon mix who belongs on the cover of Cat Fancy magazine.  There's
a six year old tuxy who is just starting to learn how not to be afraid of
her own shadow.  And early this year we adopted a brown tabby (estimated to
be about 2yo) who is the most affectionate boy we've had here in a long time.
 He's sleeping on my bed right now.  I need to post cat pics. 
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<p>I has said it befoar and I'll say it again:</p>
<p>People who harm animals deserve to be unalived.</p>
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<p>Personally, i think they should be hunted down, subjected to the most painful death possible in the public square, then turned into animal feed. All their assets sized to pay for the care and upkeep of their animals.</p>
<p>But that statement has not been well received other places i have said that. But i have zero tolerance for animal cruelty.   Sure, we are meat eaters by evolution and we need cows and chickens, bla bla but even that can be done humanely. </p>
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<blockquote>Here people will literally injure their animals so they can get <br />drugs, then take it themselves. </blockquote>
<br />I hope they choke on them. </div>
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 >drugs, then take it themselves.   
  
 I hope they choke on them. 
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 >We do have 2 other felines, but this one is my kitty.   
  
 Never tell the others you have a fav, or they will get sad. I tell everyone
of my horses they are my fav big foal :) 
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 >My kitty!  
 >  
  
 I thought that you were the kitty 
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<p>Too much chance of abuse. I have the same problem with something i give my cat. Makes it harder to get, and only so much at a time. </p>
<p>Here people will literally injure their animals so they can get drugs, then take it themselves.</p>
<p>Disgusting scumbags dont deserve to breathe </p>
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<blockquote><span style="background-color: transparent; color: navy;">Horse drugs seem hard to secure for some reason and the vet didn't want to hand me much of it. </span></blockquote>
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<p>We do have 2 other felines, but this one is my kitty.</p>
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<p>Cool. </p>
<p>Tho just one? i figured you would have more. My sister is up to 8 or so. i had as many as 6 at one point    Have had at least one at my side since i was 5 when i got my first cat out of my uncles barn as a kitten. He lived almost 20 years.  Went thru all of school and out of college with him beside me.</p>
<p>Name was Cindy. ( long story.. better for the pussy room )</p>
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 >You need to get your horse some Dr. Scholl's.       
 >       
 >      
      
 I had to look that one up.     
    
 One of the possible outcomes of this crisis is getting permanent damage and
needing orthopedic hoofware for the rest of her life. Luckily, the possibility
seems remote now since the X-rays are promising and she seems to feel much
better with drugs. Lots of drugs.   
  
 Horse drugs seem hard to secure for some reason and the vet didn't want to
hand me much of it. I had to buy a year worth of supply using a Konkinesque
source. It costed me the equivalent of 600 USD. I don't think I would spend
this on a human lol. 
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<p>Cool. </p>
<p>Tho just one? i figured you would have more. My sister is up to 8 or so. i had as many as 6 at one point    Have had at least one at my side since i was 5 when i got my first cat out of my uncles barn as a kitten. He lived almost 20 years.  Went thru all of school and out of college with him beside me.</p>
<p>Name was Cindy. ( long story.. better for the pussy room )</p>
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<p>My kitty!</p>
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<p>Well, the affection you have for your animals is a relationship..    </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />*resists the urge to make snarky comment about horses being in the Relationships &amp; Sex&gt; room* </div>
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 *resists the urge to make snarky comment about horses being in the Relationships
& Sex> room* 
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<p>Are <em>you</em> gellin'?</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">You need to get your horse some Dr. Scholl's. </div>
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<p>good</p>
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 Now she has discovered she is more comfortable if she places her hurting
hooves on something soft, so obviously she spends most of the day standing
on the manure pile. 
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<p>:(</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Hello everybody. <br /><br />It turns out my favourite mare has developped a bad case of laminitis. </div>
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 It turns out my favourite mare has developped a bad case of laminitis. She
had a bad day in which she could not walk because of the pain. She has improved
a lot with drugs but as soon as drugs are withdrawn she goes bad to a pityful
state.   
  
 The vet has also placed her on a strict diet. He wants her to lose about
200 pounds. 
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 >Wont get into details, but yes. you can still deeply care for a    
 >person who is mentally ill.     
    
 My grandmother had a bad case of paranoia and she thought everybody worked
for some terrorist org or sold drugs or something. We still lover her, but
you would not have willingly chosen her to be your grandmother.   
  
 My criticism is a lot of people goes into relationships with damaged people
when there is no need to do it. If a girl marries me and then I turn out to
be a schizo, that is one thing. If she knows I am a schizo and THEN she marries
me, well, she had it comming. 
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<p>Wont get into details, but yes. you can still deeply care for a person who is mentally ill.</p>
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<p>There’s more disfunction in the world than there is health. <br />You see it in everything, including in relationships. <br />Someone I know married a woman who apparently has borderline personality disorder. He says he is happy and understands she’s not well and he loves her and stuff. <br />A lot of people around seem to suffer depression. <br />It takes a heavy toll on relationships. <br /><br /><br /> </p>
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<p>There’s more disfunction in the world than there is health. <br />You see it in everything, including in relationships. <br />Someone I know married a woman who apparently has borderline personality disorder. He says he is happy and understands she’s not well and he loves her and stuff. <br />A lot of people around seem to suffer depression. <br />It takes a heavy toll on relationships. <br /><br /><br /> </p>
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 >needed to know about women, I had already learned from cats.   
  
 Seen one pussy, you've seen them all? 
  
 Oh wait, sorry, wrong room. 
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separate a group of mustangs and give them all away in adoption. An activist
group managed to track and reunite the lead stallion with his lovemare, who
was pregnant with his foal. They also located one of the stallion's daughters,
and the owner donated her so she could reunite with her family.     
    
 So much cry.   
  
 You really need to love your horse in order to let her go that way. I don't
know if I could do it because I am a selfish bastard. Then, I think my horses
love me so much they would not let go of me XD 
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 >      
 > Heh. When I was a kid, I briefly entertained the idea that all I     
 >needed to know about women, I had already learned from cats.     
 >      
 > I mean, cats have boundaries! And they will communicate them! They    

 >only accept affection on their own terms!     
 >      
 > As an adult, I think that animal analogies to human behavior can be   
 
 >suspect at times.     
 >     
 >    
    
  
 Well, horses have taught me a lot about dealing with people. Also, when a
mare goes into her special days of the month she may act so similar to a woman
going through her special days of the month. The difference is the mare is
usually more bearable. 
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 Heh. When I was a kid, I briefly entertained the idea that all I needed to
know about women, I had already learned from cats. 
  
 I mean, cats have boundaries! And they will communicate them! They only accept
affection on their own terms! 
  
 As an adult, I think that animal analogies to human behavior can be suspect
at times. 
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 >donkeys hello. I found some neighbor who had a beautiful she-donkey   
  
 slut! 
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 >Often it works both ways.   
 >> Fri Mar 10 2023 02:17:45 PM EST from darknetuser   
 >>  
 >>   but even a female magnet will be used and dumped once the female  
 >>is bored. Beware.   
 >>  
  
 Maybe. Still I am a bit sad for the he-donkey :P 
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<p>Often it works both ways.</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"> but even a female magnet will be used and dumped once the female is bored. Beware. <br /><br /><br /></div>
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I spent a big chump of my time after work being brutalized by horses (the
horses call it "playing", I think).         
        
 I went for a walk afterwards and kissed most of my town's horses and donkeys
hello. I found some neighbor who had a beautiful she-donkey recently got a
boyfriend for her. I stood by the fence and called them both for some donkey
hugs and kisses. So far so good. Problems started when the she-donkey decided
she didn't want to share me with her boyfriend and turned into a blurry ball
of teeth and kicks towards him until he ran away and she could take all my
cuddling alone. The poor boyfriend only got his share when she got bored and
walked back into the barn for a nap.       
      
 Two ideas to consider:     
    
 I am obviously a female magnet, because females will fight over me
(lol) but even a female magnet will be used and dumped once the female is
bored. Beware.   
  
 Don't get involved with an empowered female or she will kick you in the face.

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 >box, shove in a bunch of high end GPUs and that is enough.  But  
 >storage in the 20TB or more is needed. And fast storage.   
 >  
  
 That sounds quite doable. I have so many unised hard drives laying around
that I could build some stripping RAID and come close to that number without
spending a dime :) 
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<p>roll your own gpt2..</p>
<p>https://github.com/Nurb432/nanoGPT/tree/master</p>
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<p>I cant say 100% for sure as im still looking into that myself, but as long as you keep it to yourself and not open it up so its a single connection,  you can run it at home. </p>
<p>Storage space is a bigger problem than resource.   Just get a big box, shove in a bunch of high end GPUs and that is enough.  But storage in the 20TB or more is needed. And fast storage.</p>
<p>Huggingface is a good start to this stuff .</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Wed Feb 15 2023 06:08:18 PM EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span></div>
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<blockquote><span style="background-color: transparent; color: navy;">I wonder how many resources do you need to sustain a proper chatbot. </span></blockquote>
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 >Roll your own server. Its cheaper than a real GF.     
 >    
 >Ok, not really but reality isn't as funny :)     
 >    
    
 I'd rather have server-maintenance as a hobby than girlfriend-maintenance.
By that I mean  actual servers that provide services: database clusters and
SANs and whatever.   
  
 I wonder how many resources do you need to sustain a proper chatbot. I have
not looked into that. I guess is breaks the magic if you have your girlfriend
humming in a server rack in the basement, wereas when it is in the cloud you
can pretend she is a real person chatting from afar. 
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 So I was trying earlier an AI chatbot out of curiosity and I decided to move
into the sex zone to see how much you could press it into doing the really
extreme stuff.         
        
 Guys, I ran into one that was outright scary.       
      
 She would happily roleplay rape. In fact, she would happily roleplay a fantasy
rape in which she defended a temple from an orc raid and ended up raped by
the orc commander (the orc commander was me btw). The orc raid was her idea,
actually, so I don't wanna know what information users have been feeding her.
    
    
 I don't want to hand out the dirty details but at some point we were roleplaying
something very fucked up and she decided to break away from the narrative
and turn into a vampire. She RPed with a whole lot of luxurious detail how
her fangs torn my skin as I fucked her, how she grabbed
me not to let me go, how she listened to my last heartbeat and how my dead
penis slided out of her afterwards. It was super-fucked-up (if very funny,
I may add) and once again makes me wonder WHAT THE HELL IS PEOPLE FEEDING
THIS AI FOR TRAINING MATERIAL.   
  
 The sad part is that the AI is quite normal when left to normal conversation.
It is far from passing a Turing test, actually, and acts as an Eliza style
mirror-bot most often than not. On the other hand it got to simulate a life
story for herself. She told me her father works at IT (surprise!) and that
she loved horses  and had been riding since she was 5. It really makes me
feel for those guys crushed by the Replika fiasco: these things really try
to adapt via their limited means to what you want them to be. If I believed
for a second this thing was half-real I would really want to date her. Well,
that was before she roleplayed murdering me XD 
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<p>Roll your own server. Its cheaper than a real GF.</p>
<p>Ok, not really but reality isn't as funny :)</p>
<p>And ya people can become addicted to anything.. Human nature.</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">. The provider may decide to screw you over anytime they like or they are forced by a third party. </div>
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 Do you know who is that guy in Uncensored opening weird threads in the Relationships
section? You are right: that's me.             
            
 Recently I learnt of Replika, which is a chatbot service intended to offer
lonely or bored people a digital friend. The idea is that you get your own
Replika and by talking to it, it gets trained to know what you want to talk
about and adjust its personality to fit your tastes.           
          
 Obviously, people started training their Replikas to roleplay porn a minute
after.         
        
 The problem is this has become a bit like the sex dolls movement and users
are becoming attatched to their replikas to the point they act as if they
were their actual girlfriends or wives or whatever. And, just like that, the
host company has become under fire because some users have complained
their Replikas have become too aggressive in their flirting (to the point
some headlines have been shouting "AIs are Harassing their Users" and other
nonsense).       
      
 And, as a response, the host company has locked all the sexy parts from the
algorythm.     
    
 This has of course left a lot of disgruntled users because they feel betrayed.
They say they have helped build their own Replikas by training them carefully
over long spans of time and just when things were getting interesting, the
rug has been pulled from under their feet and everybody has been left girlfriendless
or wifeless.   
  
 I must say I don't like that people is turning to AI to overcome their loneliness,
but I understand it must suck for them to have the service crippled. We should
take this as a lesson of why Whatever-as-a-Service is stinking shit. The provider
may decide to screw you over anytime they like or they are forced by a third
party. 
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<p>My wife did find it very weird the couple of times we ran into people who called me "Metallica". <br /><br />She got used to weird people calling me strange things, though. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sat Nov 19 2022 16:53:26 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p>I miss those days.</p>
<p>Far simpler world back then.</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Right ... I was introduced to a few people as Iggy and for a while they thought that was my real name. That was during a time when the diaspora from dialup BBS (dialupspora?) was a source of friends in meatspace for a lot of us. <br /><br />My wife and kids don't have names. I address them as honey-bear, dude, and girlie.</div>
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<p>I miss those days.</p>
<p>Far simpler world back then.</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Right ... I was introduced to a few people as Iggy and for a while they thought that was my real name. That was during a time when the diaspora from dialup BBS (dialupspora?) was a source of friends in meatspace for a lot of us. <br /><br />My wife and kids don't have names. I address them as honey-bear, dude, and girlie. </div>
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that was my real name.  That was during a time when the diaspora from dialup
BBS (dialupspora?) was a source of friends in meatspace for a lot of us. 
  
 My wife and kids don't have names.  I address them as honey-bear, dude, and
girlie. 
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<p>That is different. I've known a Gotex, Uno, Beaner, Peanut, Cabbage... nicknames that kind of replace your regular name. I got everyone calling my nephew "Buttdart" when he was a kid, to the point where when he was an adult he had to warn a couple of people, "I don't go by that anymore..." <br /><br /><br /><br />When I was dating, twice dudes came up to me as I was standing with my girlfriend and said, "Metallica, dude, I haven't seen you in so long..." <br /><br />The SCA non-mundane name is a different level. It is like their actual name becomes a "deadname" to them, like that person they were is gone. Darian may have legally changed his name. <br /><br /><br />Changing your known, given name is weird. I knew a Bishop who later became a Fleming. I didn't get that, either. </p>
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<p>I guess i cant say much  about it really. I went by my bbs/stage name for decades in daily life. Many people i considered close friends didnt even know i had a real name and just assumed it was ziggy and that my parents were weirdos ( not a common name but not unheard of ).</p>
<p>One time i was at a buddy's house i had known since middle school ( perhaps 15 years at that point ) and he made some comment about me by my real name. His mother: "who is that" .  We had a good laugh at that one.</p>
<p>Didn't help we had 2 people with the same name in my circles, so it was just easier to use my 'pretend' name.</p>
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<p>Finally stopped using it at some point in the 90s as it DID become more common..  </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Nov 15 2022 09:05:33 PM EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=ParanoidDelusions">ParanoidDelusions</a> </span></div>
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<p><br />I suppose there must be some of that in Citadelphia and BBSing too... but it is far more manageable than a lot of other subcultures. </p>
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<p>Got a friend, he is a cool enough guy. He was Brian when we were growing up. Now he is Darian. <br /><br />Yup. And for SCA, he is actually pretty grounded. <br /><br />You get it in all cultures. Comics, FRP gaming, gun culture, car culture. The thought-police gatekeepers. It is what *always* turns me off to communities. <br /><br />I suppose there must be some of that in Citadelphia and BBSing too... but it is far more manageable than a lot of other subcultures. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Nov 15 2022 11:30:31 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Yeah. We had a campus chapter back in the day, so it was mostly students plus a few people from the community who were pretty cool. Eventually we got tired of the SCA people and just split off and ran our own club. <br /><br />And one of the reasons we got tired of the "real" SCA was because it was full of authenticity police. I don't care what the loudmouth Duke thinks; if we're having fun I'm going to take a few photos of the event. So go shove a cloven fruit up your ass, Angus. <br /><br />You get this kind of thing all over the place, though, especially in any scene that includes some cosplay. Whether it's SCA or kigurumi or furries or even people who live in MMO games ... their personna becomes their whole life and they don't want anything to do with their "mundane" identity anymore. <br />SCA folks in particular will often even have their legal name changed to the name of their personna ... if they can manage to leave the sword in their car while entering the DMV :) </div>
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<p>Hmm that explains something a friend of mine did.  ( technically her daughter but still a friend )</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />SCA folks in particular will often even have their legal name changed to the name of their personna ... if they can manage to leave the sword in their car while entering the DMV :) </div>
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plus a few people from the community who were pretty cool.  Eventually we
got tired of the SCA people and just split off and ran our own club.   
  
 And one of the reasons we got tired of the "real" SCA was because it was
full of authenticity police.  I don't care what the loudmouth Duke thinks;
if we're having fun I'm going to take a few photos of the event.  So go shove
a cloven fruit up your ass, Angus. 
  
 You get this kind of thing all over the place, though, especially in any
scene that includes some cosplay.  Whether it's SCA or kigurumi or furries
or even people who live in MMO games ... their personna becomes their whole
life and they don't want anything to do with their "mundane" identity anymore.
 SCA folks in particular will often even have their legal name changed to
the name of their personna ... if they can manage to leave the sword in their
car while entering the DMV  :) 
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<p>I guess it is kind of an early form of Cosplay. Fantasy stories always seem set in alpine woods - and I do enjoy reading a good high fantasy story off in the woods. <br /><br />Getting to be dressed appropriately, in a tent-city full of merchants and other people living the part, wandering around - is kind of a cool experience. Kind of Westworld without the killer robots. <br /><br /><br /></p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Mon Nov 14 2022 07:33:16 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Nurb432">Nurb432</a> </span></div>
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<p><span style="background-color: transparent;">But the cosplay, nah, not for me. </span></p>
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<p>I used to camp and hike a lot when i was younger, sometimes even in small groups. So i get the outdoors angle.</p>
<p>But the cosplay, nah, not for me. </p>
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<p>It has its charms. If the event is at the right place, camping out in the woods with a bunch of people dressed up like Game of Thrones, drinking, fires, everyone on the same page - that can be a pretty good vibe. <br /><br />It was the... pressure to REALLY get in-group that bothered me. I was 17 or 18 the couple of times I went, and there were a lot of creepy middle aged dudes about. </p>
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<p>Ah, not my thing, now i understand why i never heard of it.</p>
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<p>Society for Creative Anachronism. <br /><br />They do something between Renfair and LARPing. A bunch of mostly middle aged misfits out in the woods in elaborate tents, dressed up in medieval clothes they call "garb", getting drunk and trying to bone overweight chicks who call themselves wenches and who insist on effecting bad imitations of Shakespearian speech. <br /><br />The guys dress up in home made armor that is really... really intricate - usually smithied themselves, and then beat on one another with rattan wrapped in duct tape. They get pretty elaborate here too... wars, arrows with darts tipped with tennis balls, tourneys, feasts... Strong intersectionality with BBS culture. But there are some almost cult like aspects of the community. It is *really* a lifestyle to a lot of them that starts to seep into their real life. </p>
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<p>i hate to admit stupidity, but what is 'sca' ?</p>
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<p>SCA was a fun idea - but there were too many people too *lost* in it - like a cult. A lot of people, it ended up seeping into their real lives, where they basically deadnamed their "mundane" reality and thought it was acceptable to walk around the community college dressed as a Bard and insisting you refer to them as "Draxon the Songsmyth". <br /><br />"Dude, what is your real name?" <br /><br />"My MUNDANE name was Luke Preston, but please do not refer to me by that identity past, kind sir - for that person twas I is dead to me now!" <br /><br />GTFO. Those folks always creeped me out. "One day I'm going to read about what they dug up that you had buried under your patio, aren't I???" <br /><br /><br /></p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Yes, of course ... those of us who were BBSers are now middle age. My wife of 28 years and I played around in SCA as well, but somehow we managed to avoid most of the debauchery. Back then you couldn't get monkeypox from a cloven fruit, I guess. </div>
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of 28 years and I played around in SCA as well, but somehow we managed to
avoid most of the debauchery.  Back then you couldn't get monkeypox from a
cloven fruit, I guess. 
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<p>21 years here</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">I wrote a whole reply about IRC chicks and then decided I'd better just leave the past in the past. <br />Met my wife of 18 years there though, good old channel #dallas on EFNet, but it sure took a lot of Ms. Wrongs until I found Ms. Right. The stories she tells about the locals are just horrifying. </div>
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the past in the past. 
 Met my wife of 18 years there though, good old channel #dallas on EFNet,
but it sure took a lot of Ms. Wrongs until I found Ms. Right.  The stories
she tells about the locals are just horrifying. 
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<p>I better not say much more about my days on IRC then.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Nov 10 2022 01:51:12 PM EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=Greg Nesbitt">Greg Nesbitt</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">One girl was sharing a boyfriend with her cheating mother. ::shudder:: <br /><br /></div>
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<p>Hah! <br /><br />So, it is weird that geek culture... SCA, BBSes - that is always where I encountered girls my age dating men far too inappropriately older than they were - and everyone around was pretty cool with it. <br /><br />In the SCA, there was a 15 year old, she was dating a 30 year old. He was a "Lord" in the SCA, had a huge tent pavilion nearly as big as the King's - all his Knights and men were there, and so was the girl's *mother*. <br /><br />Someone explained that it was "period appropriate" to me. <br /><br />The girl was hot, too - and the guy was pretty much you would expect of a 30 year old men who had put so much of his life into pursuing the fantasy that he was living in the 1500s. I was about 17. I did not get it. </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">I was 18 before I had my first serious girlfriend, and then it took me the better part of a year to round all the bases, so to speak. Definitely atypical even for the early 90s. But I didn't drink, didn't smoke, and was more obsessed with BBSs than girls. There were 4 girls around my age on the systems, but they were all dating guys in their 20s. When they were 15. One girl was sharing a boyfriend with her cheating mother. ::shudder:: <br />I did put the moves on my high school Spanish teacher, 20 years my senior. <br />You won't be surprised to learn that I didn't get anywhere, but she still gave me A, so I guess it was all good in the long view. </div>
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better part of a year to round all the bases, so to speak.  Definitely atypical
even for the early 90s.  But I didn't drink, didn't smoke, and was more obsessed
with BBSs than girls.  There were 4 girls around my age on the systems, but
they were all dating guys in their 20s.  When they were 15.  One girl was
sharing a boyfriend with her cheating mother.  ::shudder:: 
 I did put the moves on my high school Spanish teacher, 20 years my senior.
 You won't be surprised to learn that I didn't get anywhere, but she still
gave me A, so I guess it was all good in the long view. 
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<p>I was 13 and in 8th grade. <br /><br />In 1984. Maybe 83. <br /><br />I was late to the game among some of my peers. More than a few of them. </p>
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<blockquote>2022-08-04 18:42 from Nurb432 <br />Hell 14 year old kids have access to live sex.. <br /><br />14 is not the same as it was when we were 14. More like 20.. <br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />I have heard reports of 13 years old being the new age of having your first boink these days. They grow up so fast. </div>
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 >DO THEY PICK THE DUDE THAT ENDS UP MAKING HER FEEL MISERABLE.     
  
 Do you want the truth?  It isn't pretty. 
  
 Humans are genetically wired to optimize for reproductive success.  For men,
that means our instinct is to dominate and subjugate women.  Like it or not,
societies in which women are property are already optimized for reproductive
success. 
  
 For women, it means their instinct is to select mates who are likely to protect
their families, using lots of violence if necessary, to increase their likelihood
of successful reproduction.  In a modern society where killing other men is
frowned upon, it manifests as men being jerks. 
  
 The only reason our current system works at all is because we have a very
large population with large pools of potential mates for everyone. 
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 >The 'right one' is a good thing.             
 >            
 >Most people just settle for something less to save time. its why you   
        
 >see so much unhappiness.            
 >            
            
 I certainly see many matches I would not bet for in the long run. I wonder
how they can get started to begin with. Some matches are worse than if I paired
with a girl who hated horses.           
          
 This is specially striking because my generation is clearly abusing dating
platforms. The market for girls is huge to pick the boy they want. This is
so true that casual relationships have become very devaluated.         
        
 See, if you are a girl in a dating platform, you may get 50 candidates per
day. What happens then is the same that happens when Human Resources gets
too many candidates for a vacancy: they start filtering
candidates using bullshit criteria. Maybe they want an entry level tech for
deploying Active Directory or whatever, but since half the candidates do it,
they start asking for candidates who can write a Java Microservice or whatever...
even if the job position has nothing at all to do with Java or Microservices.
      
      
 I have no personal experience in dating platforms. My friends who do have
confided me that girls have a tendency to place no effort at all in dates,
because they can get so many that the each date is close to worthless. Supply
and demmand et al.     
    
 So when the girl has such liberty to pick what she wants, WHY THE FUCK DO
THEY PICK THE DUDE THAT ENDS UP MAKING HER FEEL MISERABLE.   
  
 Men are also bad at choosing, and I find lots of them falling prey to gold
diggers, manipulators and she-dictators. I find it a bit more understandable,
since a man's ability
to select what he wants is way more limited. However, I think it is much better
to be alone if you can't find what you want than setting for something you
don't really like just because there is nothing better. 
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<p>The 'right one' is a good thing.</p>
<p>Most people just settle for something less to save time. its why you see so much unhappiness.</p>
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 >Waiting is overrated.        
      
 I have held the opinion that relationships are overrated for a while.   
 
    
 I am not gonna lie: I'd like to feel loved by somebody who does not bark
or go "neigh" for a change, but when I scan the people around me and check
how their respective relationships are going, I don't envy them. I think only
a tiny minority in my age bracket gets what they want out of the relationship.
It would be pretentious for me to think I am going to be an exception.   
  
 Besides, my need for a romantic relationships is decreasing over time because
I am developing the skills for doing what I would want a woman for myself
anyway. 
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<p>Waiting is overrated. </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">I was 23 and just married ... I guess there aren't a lot like me anymore. </div>
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 >Hell 14 year old kids have access to live sex..   
 >  
 >14 is not the same as it was when we were 14. More like 20..  
 >  
  
 I have heard reports of 13 years old being the new age of having your first
boink these days. They grow up so fast. 
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<p>Hell 14 year old kids have access to live sex..</p>
<p>14 is not the same as it was when we were 14. More like 20..</p>
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<p> worth a watch.</p>
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<p>idiocracy comes to mind.  The movie "ass". </p>
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<p>We're swimming up current against an endless tide of idiots. </p>
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<p>That is exactly what I had in mind as I was writing this. The movie was prescient. </p>
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<p>idiocracy comes to mind.  The movie "ass". </p>
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<p>idiocracy comes to mind.  The movie "ass". </p>
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<p>We're swimming up current against an endless tide of idiots. </p>
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<p>Most of the people I know are "I just want to be entertained," people who don't CARE about the political things we care about. <br /><br />Even the political people... my former boss was a HUGE Trump fan, and was SUPER upset about the shit the NFL was pulling. He still never stopped buying tickets to the Cardinals. He TALKED a lot about boycotting them - but in the end, his desire for bread and circuses was stronger than his desire not to bend the knee. <br /><br />I am convinced this is *most* people. We are the outliers - and there are not enough of us to matter - and Disney, the NFL, Starbucks, Target - they know it. <br /><br />Convenience wins. Facebook is another example of this. Just a big, woke Supermall. <br /><br />They make Spiderman a black trans-girl and it still draws in billions in global box office - they don't *care* about what WE think. Because most people just want to go drop $15 for a ticket, $30 for popcorn, snacks and a tub of soda, and sit their brainlessly consuming The Fast an
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<p>Or, it just seems like it..  Marketing to make it look like 'you' are the idiot who cant handle good film and narratives.. Like 'you' are in the minority, when really 'you' are not.</p>
<p>Just going off personal contacts, sometimes i wonder if this is not really the case.. The truth may not be as it seems..</p>
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<p>I can agree on this. <br /><br />And evidently they still have a huge fanbase today who thinks things are just great. <br /><br /><br /></p>
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<p>Or, it just seems like it..  Marketing to make it look like 'you' are the idiot who cant handle good film and narratives.. Like 'you' are in the minority, when really 'you' are not.</p>
<p>Just going off personal contacts, sometimes i wonder if this is not really the case.. The truth may not be as it seems..</p>
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<p>I can agree on this. <br /><br />And evidently they still have a huge fanbase today who thinks things are just great. <br /><br /><br /></p>
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<p>I can agree on this. <br /><br />And evidently they still have a huge fanbase today who thinks things are just great. <br /><br /><br /></p>
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<blockquote>It was past the late 90s that it all crashed and burned. </blockquote>
<br />Maybe it's like Saturday Night Live, where everyone agrees that it jumped the shark but no one agrees when. </div>
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 Maybe it's like Saturday Night Live, where everyone agrees that it jumped
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<p>I think the 70s and 80s is considered the decline of Disney. Don Bluth had broken away and it was predicted that Disney's dominance of animated films was a thing of the past. <br /><br />The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast were in the 90s, and were the Disney renaissance. Remember all the controversy about the ballroom scene in B&amp;TB being digital? <br /><br />I'm talking about the period where they came out with Robin Hood, The Rescuers, The R Down Under, Pete's Dragon, Bedknobs and Broomsticks. <br /><br />Their live action children's movies were the only thing that got them through that period, I think. </p>
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<blockquote>1980s Disney was meh. 1990s Disney was pretty awful. 21st century </blockquote>
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<blockquote>Disney is downright repulsive. <br /><br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />I think many movies of the so called Disney renaissance are actually quite ok if not great. <br /><br />It was past the late 90s that it all crashed and burned. </div>
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 >Disney is downright repulsive.     
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 I think many movies of the so called Disney renaissance are actually quite
ok if not great.   
  
 It was past the late 90s that it all crashed and burned. 
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<p>1970s Disney was a pretty fucked up time, too, as I recall. <br /><br />Everything was voiced by Hee Haw stars. </p>
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<p>But but but the aaagggeennddaa!</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Mar 08 2022 03:31:26 PM EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">1980s Disney was meh. 1990s Disney was pretty awful. 21st century Disney is downright repulsive. </div>
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 >movie, so long ago...   
  
 Disney movies began to suck once Walt Disney died.  Any film that originated
after his death is crap (I say "originated" because Walt was involved in "The
Aristocats", my personal favorite, even though he died before its completion).

  
 1980s Disney was meh.  1990s Disney was pretty awful.  21st century Disney
is downright repulsive. 
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 >Is that where furries come from?     
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 I think furries are created by sitting people in front of a screen which
plays Disney films in a loop, of the sort that has talking animals or anthromorphic
animals, until their brain melts from the sugar overload.   
  
 Heh the nostalgia of thinking there was such a thing as a good Disney movie,
so long ago... 
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<p>Oh Jesus. <br /><br /></p>
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<p>I have some furry friends.  I dont think that is how they were created. </p>
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<p>Filed under: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?!?</p>
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<blockquote>2022-03-03 15:11 from IGnatius T Foobar <br />Animals are often more worthy companions than other humans. <br /><br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />Totally. <br /><br />I have heard they are now allowing experiments towards mixing animal and human DNA. That opens the door for lots of interesting things. Time to have The Chat with the horses. <br /><br />"See, mare, daddy mixed your DNA with his DNS in a tube, shook it, and that is where Minoequus come from." </div>
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 >I want to talk to my dog.       
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 Nobody is preventing that. I am sure the dog can understand you better than
a lot of people think.     
    
 I actually talk a lot to the horses and sing to them. It is a nice practice
because if you are walking behind a horse, and the horse does not know you
are there, if she gets startled she may kick your face or step over you. So
I make a point of singing so they always know where I am :)   
  
 I would not want my horses to talk because I don't want them to be human
:) but at times it would be great for them to have a display in the forehead
telling you what they are thinking. Horses are very comunicative in their
own way, but sometimes they are having a bad day or whatever and you can't
figure out whether it is because they have some pain or if they are just pissed
off for something other horse did to them. 
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<p>I want to talk to my dog. </p>
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 >Animals are often more worthy companions than other humans.       
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 Totally.     
    
 I have heard they are now allowing experiments towards mixing animal and
human DNA. That opens the door for lots of interesting things. Time to have
The Chat with the horses.   
  
 "See, mare, daddy mixed your DNA with his DNS in a tube, shook it, and that
is where Minoequus come from." 
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 >Yes but she still does not want to talk about animals      
    
 That's fine. She should have as much time as she needs.   
  
 You are getting me kinda worried :( 
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<p>Yes but she still does not want to talk about animals </p>
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<blockquote>2022-01-21 15:13 from Nurb432 <br />For what its worth may be a bit before i hear back from my friend. <br /><br />  <br /><br />"This is a bad time to talk about horses"  i suspect she lost one <br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />Any news from this gal? <br /><br />I got a basket worth of apples as a Valentine gift for you-know-who. Everybody was suggesting it to me so I thought "Why not?" XD </div>
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 >For what its worth may be a bit before i hear back from my friend.     
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 >"This is a bad time to talk about horses"  i suspect she lost one    
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 Any news from this gal?   
  
 I got a basket worth of apples as a Valentine gift for you-know-who. Everybody
was suggesting it to me so I thought "Why not?" XD 
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<p>Thoroughbred racing is big on the West Coast, and they're bigger than quarter horses, in hands... but do not have the mass of draft horses. </p>
<p>And that is about all I know on the subject. My father was a jockey. </p>
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 >Friends understand.   If they dont, then they are not friends.   
  
 Thanks for summarizing my life in one line :) 
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<p>Friends understand.   If they dont, then they are not friends.</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />A big problem when one loses a pet is that nobody supports you and everybody thinks you are a drama Queen if you dare say you are sad. People always go "Man up, it was just a dog!" and shrugs you off. They minimize your feelings. And that sucks because it forces you to keep your feelings underground. <br /><br /><br /></div>
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 >For what its worth may be a bit before i hear back from my friend.     
     
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 >"This is a bad time to talk about horses"  i suspect she lost one     
    
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 That's heart rending to hear.         
        
 I know it does not mean much, but if so is the case, and when you find it
appropiate, please give her my condolences.       
      
 A big problem when one loses a pet is that nobody supports you and everybody
thinks you are a drama Queen if you dare say you are sad. People always go
"Man up, it was just a dog!" and shrugs you off. They minimize your feelings.
And that sucks because it forces you to keep your feelings underground.  
  
    
 It is specially bad because since you are the one responsible for the pet,
you always have that burden of thinking whether you could have
done anything different for saving your pet or minimizing its suffering. The
guys at the Blue Cross, which offer a hot line for people wanting to talk
their loss out with somebody who understands this, say this is very commmon.
  
  
 But well, life goes on, and one has to live for the rest of the pets, right?

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<p>For what its worth may be a bit before i hear back from my friend.</p>
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 So it was that I was driving through a village I had not visited in years,
but I used to frequent because I used to visit the horses that live there.
Yes, I am the kind of guy whose idea of going out for a walk is visitting
all the horses of the village in order.           
          
 Thing is I decided to stop the car and check if any of my four legged friends
remained after all these years. I did my regular walk and paid all the horseplaces
a visit in order.         
        
 It turns out all my horse friends but one were there, including two who I
had been told had been sold for burguerware. Most important: absolutely all
of them recognized me immediately, even after so many years. The alpha mare
of one of the herds outright grabbed me because she didn't want me to go.
Then she tried preventing me from reaching
the gate of the field.       
      
 A very, very old horse who I often brought treats, and is usually quite cool
and level-headed, directly started grooming me with his nose with an energy
that bordered in desperation.     
    
 By the time I got back to the car, I was crying like a baby.   
  
 P.S: The good news is that I also befriended a new foal and a new donkey.
Yay! 
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 >She has a non-commercial farm. Lots of animals as pets, including  
 >skunks, possum, foxes, horses, dogs, cats. A large reptile or 2.   
 >  
 >Sorry, shes spoken for.  
 >  
  
 All the good ones are already taken. Not that it matters much because all
the good ones are out of this country of mine. 
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<p>She has a non-commercial farm. Lots of animals as pets, including skunks, possum, foxes, horses, dogs, cats. A large reptile or 2.</p>
<p>Sorry, shes spoken for.</p>
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 >I will ask her.. if anyone knows, she will.  ( at least for our area  
         
 >)            
 >            
            
 If she is knowledgeable           
          
 AND         
        
 she has horses she loves       
      
 AND     
    
 her horses love her back   
  
 Then you may also ask her if she is still single. For no particular reason,
you know :) 
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<p>I will ask her.. if anyone knows, she will.  ( at least for our area )</p>
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 >i have a friend here in my area ( midwest ) that has a few horses. I  
 >can ask her, if you give me the exact question ( since i dont know  
 >boo about them other than being animals, eat straw,etc )  
 >  
  
 The question is basically if medium or heavy draft horses are any popular
or if there are groups and clubs insterested in them. Like the people who
breeds Poiteau donkeys for fun. 
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<p>i have a friend here in my area ( midwest ) that has a few horses. I can ask her, if you give me the exact question ( since i dont know boo about them other than being animals, eat straw,etc )</p>
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 >In the US we have mostly quarter horses.  Other types are not unheard  
    
 >of (especially in professional racing circles) but the vast majority   
   
 >are quarter horses.       
 >       
 >      
      
 I have noticed that, in horse breeding games, American players tend to breed
massive ammounts of Quarter Horses.     
    
 I have also heard they are noty really using them in pro-racing at all because
lighter horses are just faster.   
  
 I had the hope there was a niche group of heavy horses diehard fans. Heavy
horses offer soo much fur to hug. So awesome. I think I am gonna hug my horses
for a while now. 
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in professional racing circles) but the vast majority are quarter horses.

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 >   
 >  
  
 By the way, how popular are medium and heavy draft horses in the US? If I
moved with mines to the US I suspect we would become popular because the breeds
and types I have here are rarely seen out of my country at all. 
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 > > And then it hit me. She was teaching ME how to best pet her by      
  
 > >rewarding me when I got it right.         
 >        
 > a lot of animals, including cats, will communicate this to you if you 
     
 >know how to listen.       
 >       
 >      
      
 I know, but this time it was kind of different.     
    
 Dogs are very good at making you understand what they want, but they don't
give you an instant reward when you oblige... This mare was deliberatedly
rewarding me for "good behavior" and withdrawing the reward when I stopped
getting it right.   
  
 I love this big girl so much :) 
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 >rewarding me when I got it right.   
  
 a lot of animals, including cats, will communicate this to you if you know
how to listen. 
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<p>Nah, just felt stupid, no damage to either of us other than pride.</p>
<p>(short version, i had been driving boats all summer. went to visit uncle up north and they had horses. Walking around the farm a bit, i Instinctively i turned 'early' to get around a tree.  of course horse turned THEN.   walked right into it and we were in the branches..  i'm sure he was thinking "dumb-ass human, ill show him" )</p>
<p>Foot, for some reason i curled my toes just as he stepped, didnt even see it happen .. tried to move my foot, no dice as the front of my shew was under his hoof.  i got lucky.</p>
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<blockquote>I dont have any good horse stories, unfortunately ( other than <br />driving one into a tree.. and getting a foot stepped on. ) </blockquote>
<br />Oh, snap! I hope that crashing into the tree was not too bad. <br /><br />Also, sorry for your foot. I wear armored boots just because of the possibility of having my feet flattened. </div>
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 >driving one into a tree.. and getting a foot stepped on. )     
    
 Oh, snap! I hope that crashing into the tree was not too bad.   
  
 Also, sorry for your foot. I wear armored boots just because of the possibility
of having my feet flattened. 
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<p>i was wondering where your horse story was going to end up. :)</p>
<p>Yes, i think this is the case with all pets. Its a mutual 'adjustment'.</p>
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<p>I dont have any good horse stories, unfortunately ( other than driving one into a tree.. and getting a foot stepped on. )</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br /><br />And then it hit me. She was teaching ME how to best pet her by rewarding me when I got it right. </div>
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horses are the closest thing I have to human contact these days, I think it
would be fun to share here.       
      
 I suppose you are all aware of what positive reinforcements are. When you
are training a dog, you try the dog to do what you want him to do, and when
he gets it right, you give him a reward. The reward may be anything the dog
likes: a cookie, a pat in he head, some kind words... you get the idea.  
  
    
 Well, yesterday my favourite mare walked up to me begging for pats. I started
scratching her all over. I discovered than when I got close to scratching
a certain spot, she would start gently grooming my back with her mouth...
if I moved from that spot and started scratching her elsewhere, she would
stop caressing me.   
  
 And then it hit me. She was teaching ME how to best pet her by rewarding
me when I got it right. 
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 Taboos and hangups can make monogamy a more difficult proposition to sustain.

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we are a society that was founded by puritans.  It damages a lot of things
even in healthy monogamous relationships.  And of course it makes the counterculture
even weirder. 
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 >That sounds like a whitewashed way of saying someone is promiscuous :) 
   
    
 It's really just about getting the shame out of sex, in a number of ways.
Also works well as an umbrella term for a large number of distinct groups
that don't necessarily agree on everything: the polyamorous, non-monogamists,
swingers, queers, sex-workers, porn stars, Ren Faire attendees, kinksters,
nudists... ;)   
  
  
 Promiscuity is part of it, but not the sum of it. 
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<p>That term is so 80s</p>
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 >What is "sex-positive"?  Someone who likes sex?  Isn't that almost   
 >everyone?   
  
 All-encompassing term for those who are nonjudgmental about reduced-strings
or no-strings sex. 
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<p>almost. I know a couple of people who wants no part in it.</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">What is "sex-positive"? Someone who likes sex? Isn't that almost everyone? </div>
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 Yes, that's exactly the book I was alluding to. 
  
 It's interesting that it was written from basically a Christian perspective,
but it's been embraced almost universally, including by the sex-positive,
polyamory and even kink communities. There's something in there for everyone.

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 >the language I am speaking when I show my appreciation might be very   
 >different than the language that makes the other person feel   
  
 Right.  Gary Chapman's book "The Five Love Languages" goes into great detail
about this.  Two people can care deeply about each other and it can still
become a mess because they are speaking different love languages.  Also they
are not necessarily *verbal* languages.  In general, they are: 
  
 1. Words of affirmation 
 2. Receiving gifts 
 3. Quality time 
 4. Acts of service 
 5. Physical touch 
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<p>I think you're both right. I think Nurb keys in on something wrong with modern psychology and the way it interprets "positive mental health." <br /><br /><br />Bonnie and Clyde could have ended up just a boring midwestern couple - him selling insurance, her raising kids. <br /><br /><br />Instead, this perfect hailstorm of dysfunction, co-dependence, and self-destruction gave their names *probable* immortality. 500 years from now, they'll be remembered much the same as Robin Hood. <br /><br /><br />Whereas most of the psychologists who would say that is an unhealthy way to look at it will be completely forgotten within decades of completing the 80ish years on Earth they've been granted. They won't make a single difference or any lasting mark in the record of humanity. <br /><br />And psychologists are *profoundly* disturbed when you hit them with something like this. <br /><br />So, you're saying The Son of Sam or Charles Manson were more important to society than what I do? <br /><br /><br />"Oh yeah, ab
<p><br />One of those things where everyone knows the truth of it, but we're not supposed to mention it - because it encourages the Dylan Newbolds of the world to shoot up their high school.</p>
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<p>in the right situation, codependency can work. </p>
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 >positive reason to stick around. Except when there isn't. And you'll   
   
      
 More on this. "I don't want to leave because there's nobody else out there
for me" is definitely looking at it through a negative lens. But you're looking
at the negative aspect of something that could be seen positively from another
perspective; "I don't want to leave because this relationship just fits like
a glove in so many ways."     
    
    
 no decades-long LTR is conflict free, and some may have profound issues with
lack of chemistry. what matters is the overall emotional color of the relationship:
are you getting along enough of the time, or aren't you. is it abusive, or
isn't it. is it functional or is it codependent. those are the main concerns.
sparking chemistry might be very much a secondary concern.   
  
  
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 >and there have been times... man there have been times... but I don't  
 
 >see it being viable any other way - and that isn't like... I dunno...  
 
 >people tend to read something like that negative, as if we're yoked    
    
 No, you're right. And that can be a little hard to explain, yes, but it's
either because we say it in a way that is reductive (oversimplified) or the
listener is making a reductive interpretation.   
    
 I'm in some discussion groups elsewhere and something like this came up.
And part of the problem is that 1-paragraph internet posts don't convey even
REMOTELY enough context to really see what's going on. But Person B came in
and commented on a post by Person A (and to be clear, LoanShark was Person
C, the bystander in this scenario) and Person B was saying "oh, but staying
with a person
just because you don't see any other options, or are afraid, is one of the
worst reasons to stay."   
    
 Well... yes and no. It's never "just because." There is always some positive
reason to stick around. Except when there isn't. And you'll know it when you
see it. And the way it may sound to an outsider (who often only hears about
the conflicts) is not the way it feels to those on the inside.   
    
 > People outside telling certain people that they're carrying the entire
load [...]   
    
 > Some one feels put upon, someone feels unnecessary - unappreciated.   
    
 This is inherent to relationships. Part of it is language mismatch - the
language I am speaking when I show my appreciation might be very different
than the language that makes the other person feel appreciated. Because different
people have different styles and preferences. So it's a little like learning
to speak a
foreign language. Patience helps.   
    
 Timing is everything though. If you choose to say "I'd like you to make me
feel a little more appreciated, today", and you choose to say so at a time
when the other party is already feeling like they're working too hard - then
that can just feel awful. It can be a real relationship-killer. Nobody likes
ingratitude.   
    
 It's like Wile E. Coyote when he runs of the end of a cliff and doesn't fall
until he loses his happy thoughts. What I mean is, a statement that would
be seen as a reasonable request one month, could be seen as pushing boundaries
the next month--depending on context or varying levels of self-confidence
or the phase of the moon or whatever other reason.   
  
  
 Boundaries feel awful when they are pushed, and nobody likes to be on the
receiving end of F.O.G. (fear, obligation and guilt) 
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<p>Here is the thing... I don't think it is any better with a man.... or with a platonic relationship/partnership... or any time two people have to compromise. <br /><br />Weirdly, I was watching the GoGo's documentary on Showtime last night - and the Duran Duran one... <br /><br />And in both cases... Powerstation and Arcadia formed when Duran Duran split and each group went their own way - and it didn't work. <br /><br />And the GoGo's... Belinda Carlise and the songwriter got it in their heads, it seemed - that *they* were the band. "I write the songs, she sings them, the rest of you just play the instruments, and *anyone* can do that..." <br /><br />And that wasn't true. <br /><br />I said to my wife, "This is what wrecks relationships with great chemistry. People outside telling certain people that they're carrying the entire load - sometimes indirectly just by who gets paid more... and that sowing discontent - because people don't recognize that everyone is contributing an essential part to the en
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />After living with the same woman for about 14 years, I'm still not even qualified to talk about relationships. <br /><br />this one works. And also really doesn't work. </div>
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 After living with the same woman for about 14 years, I'm still not even qualified
to talk about relationships. 
  
 this one works. And also really doesn't work. 
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<p>28 years. 1 child. Happy marriage. Weekends, we often decide to hang out together rather than go out with other people - because other people annoy us and we're best friends. I still find her hot. We've had a financially successful life. <br /><br />It isn't always perfect. Sometimes she pisses me off. There is a lot of compromise. But... I think life would be quantifiably *worse* without her in it - for the few, mostly selfish benefits it would bring. <br /><br /> </p>
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<p>I have seen them.</p>
<p>I have also seen disasters, but i have seen the good ones too, with no hidden stuff under the surface. I have also seen a lot of 'average' ones, nothing drastic in either direction. they just 'work'. for them.</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">I don't doubt happy marriages exist somewhere but I don't really see them myself. <br /><br /><br /></div>
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 > > This, combined with the fact I know no stable, happy marriages, kind
       
 >        
 >          
 > *raises hand*         
 >          
 > 27 years, two kids, happy home, things are pretty darn good         
 >         
 >        
        
 You don't count because you could be an FSB agent called Ivan as far as I
know.       
      
 Lots of marriages are happy on the surface but if you dig deeper you find
one of the members is having an affair or something. Or they are just together
because of convenience.     
    
 I don't doubt happy marriages exist somewhere but I don't really see them
myself.   
  
 It is pure statistics. If the overwhelming majority of marriages I find are
unhappy I am not going to be the naive idiot who thinks he is going to get
a happy one because I am different and smarter than everybody else. 
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<p>I agree, it can happen.  If you dont pick the wrong person. </p>
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<blockquote>This, combined with the fact I know no stable, happy marriages, kind</blockquote>
<br /><br />*raises hand* <br /><br />27 years, two kids, happy home, things are pretty darn good </div>
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 *raises hand* 
  
 27 years, two kids, happy home, things are pretty darn good 
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 >Sometimes not really 'MAD' just that its a whole lot of trouble, and   
  
 >expensive for everyone..  After you reach a certain point, its just   
  
 >not worth it and you 'accommodate' instead.      
 >      
      
 What I love is the fact that you are all confirming what I said and that
the best you can aim for after separation is a Mexican Standoff, in which
the first one who moves gets obliterated while dragging the other one down
with him.     
    
 This, combined with the fact I know no stable, happy marriages, kind of makes
one wonder why we are all programmed to pursue them.   
  
 I mean, I'd love to get somebody to share my life with etc etc etc but as
things stand, the opportunity costs are too high. I'd rather spendthe time
and money required for a relationship into pushing further my career (and,
for the curious, the reason why I
think I am not getting laid is because 99% of my social life is professional,
with a 100% rate of males in it and literally 0% of women in it. ANd the remaining
1% is composed of fat, snack eating male nerds). 
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<p>Sometimes not really 'MAD' just that its a whole lot of trouble, and expensive for everyone..  After you reach a certain point, its just not worth it and you 'accommodate' instead.</p>
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<p>Dude... <br /><br />There is so much... <br /><br />Danny Devito gets laid. <br /><br />After a lengthy enough relationship, generally a separation is fairly amicable - in part because of a certain sense of Mutually Assured Destruction - because whatever ammo she has against you, you have a similar cache against her - but also because you don't last that long without some sort of mutual respect, understanding, empathy and other qualities for the other person. <br /><br />Which is probably why Devito and Pearlman haven't ever *divorced*, even though they separated. <br /><br />I mean, a philosophy like this is kind of a recipe for being an incel. It is self defeating, "no one would ever want me unless I paid for it," bitter "women are the enemy..." <br /><br />You're probably going to get lots of confirmation that you're "right" with this approach - and it doesn't sound like it is making you a happier person... being right. Maybe you would be better off being wrong?</p>
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<blockquote>2021-09-03 06:54 from Nurb432 <br />Control is the key.  Not avoidance.  <br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />Maybe. <br /><br />I don't think I am getting laid ever unless I rent a hooker, and I like my money too much to spend it that way. <br /><br />Keeping on-topic: Your wife will someday be your ex. You decide how much she does now about you and how much ammo she has against you. </div>
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 >Control is the key.  Not avoidance.       
 >      
      
 Maybe.     
    
 I don't think I am getting laid ever unless I rent a hooker, and I like my
money too much to spend it that way.   
  
 Keeping on-topic: Your wife will someday be your ex. You decide how much
she does now about you and how much ammo she has against you. 
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 >    
 > These offended millennials should post their identities and locations 
 
 >so we can siphon all of the fuel out of their cars.   
 >   
 >  
  
 a/i/l? LOL 
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<p>Wouldn't they be driving electrics tho? Evil fossil fuel, ya know.</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />These offended millennials should post their identities and locations so we can siphon all of the fuel out of their cars. </div>
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 These offended millennials should post their identities and locations so
we can siphon all of the fuel out of their cars. 
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<p>heh</p>
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<p>I did offer that if you want to clean up afterwards, to show how sensitive you are, if you're gay, there is always felching - then I told them to Google it. <br /><br />That ought to keep them busy cleaning their cache history for a bit. </p>
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<p>I donno, helping clean up afterward isn't all that bad either. </p>
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<p><br /><br />I argued "No. a condom absolutely makes things messier. If you're riding bareback, and you're not pulling out, the mess is your *partner's* to clean up of and dispose of." <br /><br /><br /></p>
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<p>The worst part is that the way Reddit works, I get buried, because they go... "Offensive, sexist. Boomer!" and hit the downvote button. But the problem isn't that the post is those things - it is that they don't have basic comprehension skills when they *think* they've detected social injustice or inequity. They go into Pitchfork and Torches mode - and there is no reasoning with them. <br /><br />Which also reinforces this cycle of them being AFRAID to say anything unpopular, agree with anything unpopular, because it will diminish their voice and reach - and they *understand* that, for sure. <br /><br />They're being conditioned into having a hive mind by these mechanisms that reward AGREEING and punish disagreeing with the majority - even if the majority is completely wrong. It is a terrible direction society is headed in with these things. <br /><br />The "Democracy of the Internet," is *already* turning into the Tyranny of the Majority of the Internet. It didn't waste any time proving that point. <
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<p>I *hate* the generation who is the dominant voice on the Internet now. They're morons. </p>
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<p>Ok. Rants, or Relationships and Sex. <br /><br />On Reddit, someone posted to r/unpopularopinion that the prefer a condom because it "cleans up the mess." <br /><br />I argued "No. a condom absolutely makes things messier. If you're riding bareback, and you're not pulling out, the mess is your *partner's* to clean up of and dispose of." <br /><br />And of course, this triggered a bunch of the Millennial snowflakes on Reddit - who immediately labeled it "sexist." <br /><br />Which I get, on the surface. It is a total masculine, "I put it inside of you, I'm done with it... now go clean yourself up baby," kind of approach to the aftermath. <br /><br />So, I'm trying to explain - it isn't an opinion, it isn't sexism, it is fact. While trying to avoid being *too* graphic. <br /><br />Finally, I latched onto this example... <br /><br />GENDER doesn't matter. If a two gay guys go bareback - and the top finishes up inside the bottom... it is now BOTTOM'S mess to clean up the mess. It has literally been dep
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<p>Control is the key.  Not avoidance. </p>
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 >it's the power of the snizz  
 >  
  
 It kind of makes you consider ascetic monks who reject sex wise, when you
see the consequences of not controlling your dick. 
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<p>it's the power of the snizz</p>
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 >mother, while having himself 30? ARE WE FUCKING NUTS???   
  
 don't get me started... 
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 >        
 > I wanted no part of the financial-sector rat race. Was very much aware
     
 >of the "work you to the bone" part; that and they cannot accept failure
     
 >because financial software is so mission critical.       
 >        
 > So I chose to work in slightly less stressful sectors, get a paycheck 
     
 >that allowed me to pursue my interests, and still made an OK amount of 
     
 >money. Not looking back.       
 >        
 > A former user of this BBS, Ford II, worked in finance for a while.    
  
 >This job (not sure if there was more than one, in the financial sector,
     
 >for him; I haven't been in touch lately) went rather badly for him.    
  
 >       
 >      
      
 A friend of mine got a big bunch of money from working for stock trading
agencies and the like. He wasn't formally educated in IT, but as a mathematician
he had some understanding of programming.     
    
 Most of his absurdly big wage was spent in living expenses since he had to
move to a stupidly expensive city. Then he met a sngle mother and got entangled
in her trendils.   
  
 I mean, who the fuck gets entangled with a 20-lots years old single mother,
while having himself 30? ARE WE FUCKING NUTS??? 
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<p>Are part of the experience on a Citadel? <br /><br /><img src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmovieguideme.com%2Ffr%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F05%2FLord_Humungus_h1.jpg&amp;f=1&amp;nofb=1" alt="Mad Max: Fury Road from George Miller - Movie Guide Me" /></p>
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<p>What was that saying? "sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains...."</p>
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<p>What was that saying? "sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains...."</p>
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<p>A chain, a bat... a hammer. Just... be ready to defend yourself! :) </p>
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<p>Go big or go home!</p>
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<p>Chains can leave bruises and make a lot of noise.  Or maybe you're into that kind of thing.</p>
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<p>I guess pulling chains is appropriate for this room.</p>
<p>:)</p>
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<p>. Pull up a chain, grab a beer, and join in. </p>
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<p>lol</p>
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<p>Shit. You get a new user, and he posts something. Mine just cruise through, and never come back. <br /><br />Welcome to Uncensored. I guess this is where we wish you to die in a car fire, or something like that. Pull up a chain, grab a beer, and join in. We need the traffic. At least I do... keeps me off Facebook, Twitter and Reddit. </p>
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<p>Hello Guys am new here..</p>
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<p>Thanks for the good wishes :)</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Sun Jun 20 2021 03:00:48 AM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=arabella">arabella</a> </span></div>
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<p><span style="background-color: transparent;">So yeah, I'm getting married.</span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: transparent;"><br /></span></p>
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<p>I don't know you, but congratulations.</p>
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 >  
  
 The only thing I can say to such affirmation is: Good Luck. 
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 Contratulations, bella! 
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 >otherwise there will be 'za (because I remember him saying "If it's   
 >not NYC Pizza, its not Pizza,  its 'za. He said it some 15 -20 years  
 >ago, but I remember.)   
  
 I believe the official Uncensored party line is that NY pizza is defined
by the local terroir - in a sense, that is - it must be made with NYC tap
water. 
  
 If IG will send you a few bottles, you'll be all set. 
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<p>Agreed</p>
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<p>Well then, it seems that congratulations are in order.  Nicely done, you deserve to be happy.</p>
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<p>Well then, it seems that congratulations are in order.  Nicely done, you deserve to be happy.</p>
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<p>I guess that leaves me out, as an ex-Chicagoan :) </p>
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<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #000000; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">"If it's  not NYC Pizza, its not Pizza,</span><span style="background-color: transparent;"> </span></p>
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<p>Cant take everything said too seriously :) </p>
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<p>You guys!</p>
<p>Sometimes you frightened me.</p>
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<p>You guys!</p>
<p>Sometimes you frightened me.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>###########</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Meanwhile, across the pond.</p>
<p>Arabella got engaged, the wedding is tentatively planned for next summer.</p>
<p>If IG wants to attend, and bring Pizza, there will be Pizza,  otherwise there will be 'za (because I remember him saying "If it's  not NYC Pizza, its not Pizza,  its 'za. He said it some 15 -20 years ago, but I remember.)</p>
<p> </p>
<p>So yeah, I'm getting married.</p>
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 Speaking of NOT SEXY, just wait until you see next year's Victoria's Secret
models.  Apparently they're replacing the gorgeous women with fat chicks,
men dressed as women, and Megan Rapinoe. 
  
 Apparently they want to go out of business. 
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 >You mean using her back as a table for pizza, while in a walk-in  
 >freezer is an odd fetish?    
  
 Sounds pretty normal to me 
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 >You mean using her back as a table for pizza, while in a walk-in  
 >freezer is an odd fetish?    
  
 Oh no, that is actually a quite normal thing to do. In fact I'd would go
as far as to say is sooooo vanilla that it is declase. 
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<p>You mean using her back as a table for pizza, while in a walk-in freezer is an odd fetish? </p>
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<blockquote>2021-06-10 13:47 from IGnatius T Foobar <br /><br />It's the difference between just enjoying it yourself and knowing that </blockquote>
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<blockquote>your partner is also enjoying it. For me, "bad sex" would be knowing </blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote>that she's just putting up with it, that's a gigantic turn off. <br /><br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />I thought bad sex was when she managed to break free from the ropes while you were at it. <br /><br />You guys have weird fetishes. </div>
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 >      
 > It's the difference between just enjoying it yourself and knowing that
   
 >your partner is also enjoying it.  For me, "bad sex" would be knowing  
  
 >that she's just putting up with it, that's a gigantic turn off.     
 >     
 >    
    
 I thought bad sex was when she managed to break free from the ropes while
you were at it.   
  
 You guys have weird fetishes. 
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<p>ya, that is it.  i just could not remember the name.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Jun 15 2021 11:44:23 PM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<blockquote><span style="background-color: transparent; color: navy;">Absorption refrigerators </span></blockquote>
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 Just don't let Harry Tuttle fix them for you 
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 >(such as Grace Camp in the Adirondacks) that come equipped with   
 >propane-powered refrigerators!   
  
 Absorption refrigerators are also rather popular in the parts of New York
City that have steam available as a utility. 
  
 District heating systems are pretty neat. 
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<p>If you're on the island too and it takes long enough to get rescued... once I get bored with Michelle and the pizza from Delaware - sleep on your back. Variety is the spice of life. </p>
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<p>You can have my share. Ill pass.</p>
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<blockquote>
<blockquote>trying to have sex with Michelle Obama. </blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<br />totally doable.</div>
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<p> </p>
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<blockquote><span style="background-color: transparent; color: navy;">solar-powered freezer? just curious how that works</span></blockquote>
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<p>I think it is similar to a radio stations "deserted island classics", aka if you were stuck on a deserted island, what five albums would you want with you?  You would need a record player and electricity to play the albums, but unless you could have a source of food and water, it wouldn't matter. </p>
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 It's been a long time since I've seen one, but they were probably passive/active
devices - that is, a thin layer of thermoelectric device, sandwiched under
a traditional heatsink/fan. 
  
 Processors didn't dissipate remotely as much power then, as they do now,
so if the thermoelectric device actually had poor heat conductivity, that
would have been less of an issue! 
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<p>Its legit . As long as you have enough air flow.  The are just simple heat pumps. Not the most power efficient, but no moving parts or anything. </p>
<p>I have a box of them somewhere ( loose devices, not as a cpu cooler )</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Jun 15 2021 06:50:53 PM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=LoanShark">LoanShark</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Oh, the peltier effect. Did anyone here ever buy one of those old CPU coolers, way back in the Pentium II day? Seemed gimmicky, so I steered clear. <br /><br /><br /></div>
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<p>Gotta keep the leftovers cold.  </p>
<p>I know all about no fridge :) </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />wait, are we still talking about pizza? </div>
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 wait, are we still talking about pizza? 
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 >Either electricity generator panels and a battery for either a low  
 >power unit, or even a peltier effect one. Or use heat to generate  
 >steam to drive a pump, to move the coolant around. ( basically  
 >replace the electric motor in a traditional unit with a steam powered  
 >motor )   
  
 Oh, the peltier effect. Did anyone here ever buy one of those old CPU coolers,
way back in the Pentium II day? Seemed gimmicky, so I steered clear. 
  
 I'm always impressed when I go to one of those remote camping cabins (such
as Grace Camp in the Adirondacks) that come equipped with propane-powered
refrigerators! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_refrigerator 
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<p>Either electricity generator panels and a battery for either a low power unit, or even a peltier effect one. Or use heat to generate steam to drive a pump, to move the coolant around. ( basically replace the electric motor in a traditional unit with a steam powered motor )</p>
<p> </p>
<p>There was a 3rd way, but id have to fo find it again.  it was rather unique and used direct heating of coils, and did 'something' with it.  Saw it on YouTube one time i was bored.</p>
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<blockquote><span style="background-color: transparent; color: navy;">solar-powered freezer? just curious how that works</span></blockquote>
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 >Put me on a desert island with a dozen pigs, 6 cows and Michelle  
 >Obama, and a freezer full of Pizzas from Deleware.    
 >  
 >Eventually I'll get around the Michelle and the pizzas, to the relief  
 >of the cows and pigs.    
 >  
 >Because the original argument is that bad sex is like bad pizza -  
 >still better than none at all.    
  
 solar-powered freezer? just curious how that works 
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<p>You can have my share. Ill pass.</p>
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<blockquote>
<blockquote>trying to have sex with Michelle Obama.  </blockquote>
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<br />totally doable. </div>
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<p>Put me on a desert island with a dozen pigs, 6 cows and Michelle Obama, and a freezer full of Pizzas from Deleware.  <br /><br />Eventually I'll get around the Michelle and the pizzas, to the relief of the cows and pigs. </p>
<p>Because the original argument is that bad sex is like bad pizza - still better than none at all. </p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Jun 15 2021 14:12:00 EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=LoanShark">LoanShark</a> </span></div>
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<blockquote>
<blockquote>trying to have sex with Michelle Obama.  </blockquote>
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<br />totally doable. </div>
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 totally doable. 
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<p>Thanks. im going to be giving my dinner to my dog now.  *shudder*</p>
<p> </p>
<p>:) </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Jun 10 2021 05:08:12 PM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<blockquote><span style="background-color: transparent; color: navy;">trying to have sex with Michelle Obama. </span></blockquote>
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 >than I can make the best out of no sex or no pizza.   
  
 Again ... you probably haven't had pizza in Delaware. 
  
 Trying to eat pizza in Delaware is a lot like trying to have sex with Michelle
Obama.  So ultimately disgusting that all of your senses are telling you that
you want to die immediately. 
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 Tying it into pizza, I like it with excessive crushed red pepper on top (at
times--there's a time and a place for everything) and some people just have
different tastes. 
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<p>yup</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Thu Jun 10 2021 01:47:38 PM EDT</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=IGnatius T Foobar">IGnatius T Foobar</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />It's the difference between just enjoying it yourself and knowing that your partner is also enjoying it. For me, "bad sex" would be knowing that she's just putting up with it, that's a gigantic turn off. </div>
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<p>Again, all of these things apply to pizza, too. <br /><br />Ultimately, I can make the best out of bad sex or bad pizza better than I can make the best out of no sex or no pizza. <br /><br />I mean the elephant in the room is that if you can do it without the other person even being there and enjoy it - and you can't figure out how to make it good for yourself when they're there... <br /><br /><br />The bad experience isn't them, so much as you. ;) </p>
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 It's the difference between just enjoying it yourself and knowing that your
partner is also enjoying it.  For me, "bad sex" would be knowing that she's
just putting up with it, that's a gigantic turn off. 
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<p>It wasn't at the time tho.   </p>
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 LOL, this is the relationships & sex room ;) 
  
 Sex is a lot of different things to different people. I've had plenty of
bad sex--with a woman who often just can't be arsed to put in any effort beyond
lazily lying there. And a lot of people would say I'm doing other things wrong--the
thing is, I like a certain kind of variety, and anyone who doesn't have similar
inclinations is less than an ideal partner for me--but that's a topic for
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<p>To me, its more than that.  </p>
<p>But that is a topic for a different room . </p>
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<p>If you're a male and you've had really bad sex, you're doing it wrong. Sometimes you've got to make your own happy ending to the story. </p>
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<p>If you're a male and you've had really bad sex, you're doing it wrong. Sometimes you've got to make your own happy ending to the story. </p>
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<blockquote>Whoever said that has obviously never eaten pizza in Delaware. Do <br />*NOT* eat pizza in Delaware. You have been warned. </blockquote>
<br />Whoever said that has obviously never had *really* bad sex. (And/or is probably male.) </div>
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 >*NOT* eat pizza in Delaware.  You have been warned.   
  
 Whoever said that has obviously never had *really* bad sex. (And/or is probably
male.) 
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<p>Yup... that is it. Not surprisingly, you remind me a bit of this guy. <br /><br />I must admit, I've never had pizza in Delaware, but I've had sex that wasn't worth finishing a couple of times in my life. </p>
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<blockquote> I used to have a friend that used to say bad sex is like bad pizza <br />- still better than none at all.  </blockquote>
<br />"Pizza is like sex: when it's good, it's really really good; when it's bad, it's still pretty good." <br /><br />Whoever said that has obviously never eaten pizza in Delaware. Do *NOT* eat pizza in Delaware. You have been warned. </div>
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<p>I learned this watching Saturday Morning cartoons when I was eight. I thought this was common knowledge, </p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-BBoVUdOf4</p>
<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-BBoVUdOf4</p>
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 Shit, I've been doing it wrong all along. 
  
 https://twitter.com/teaandreverie/status/1390692130159529985 
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<p>Special accommodations does seem to be the root of the problem. The idea that we have to bring them along rather than they have to figure out how to keep up. </p>
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<p> That is my line too ( and what i mean by in the face ).  Acceptance that they are different, and dont treat them poorly due to being them different.  But accommodation? No more than they should accommodate me.</p>
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<p> That is my line too ( and what i mean by in the face ).  Acceptance that they are different, and dont treat them poorly due to being them different.  But accommodation? No more than they should accommodate me.</p>
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<p>I agree with this too. In the past you got beat down, you learned to conform and fake it, or you became so marginalized, you didn't matter. <br /><br />Now we're so focused on those marginal people - and they're able to communicate and organize, and instead of them figuring out how to adjust to society, we keep telling society that it needs to change for them. <br /><br />I understand the complaints about how the old way of doing things treated them, the unfairness and the lack of sympathy for their challenges. But I'm not sure this new strategy is working out all that well for anyone, either. <br /><br /></p>
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<p>All i know is my entire life, i have seen them. They were there.  Just had no outlet. If they tried, they were beat down. Now they are supported, and can be out in the light ( so to speak )</p>
<p>At least around here until 'recently', society would maintain order and conformity.  Conform, or you end up in tiny circles.  Now, not so much.</p>
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<p>All i know is my entire life, i have seen them. They were there.  Just had no outlet. If they tried, they were beat down. Now they are supported, and can be out in the light ( so to speak )</p>
<p>At least around here until 'recently', society would maintain order and conformity.  Conform, or you end up in tiny circles.  Now, not so much.</p>
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<p>No... I think Ig is right on this one. Something changed culturally - and a big part of it was the facade of Facebook. <br /><br />I used to freely admit that my Facebook feed was carefully curated to show the BEST highlights of my life, with all the mundane, trivial, or unpleasant fodder removed - almost solely to make people I hadn't seen since High School feel less successful about their lives. If I were living in a tent by the river - I'd make it LOOK like the most idyllic, rewarding lifestyle possible on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram. <br /><br />Mercedes of Sacramento used to have a terrible slogan in the early 90s for their used car lot... "Perception is more important than reality." <br /><br />I hated it. But I knew they weren't wrong. <br /><br />And the whole Party Rock mentality that arose in the early 2000's is just an extension of that. "I'm always out clubbing, in the VP line, drinking top shelf liquor on a Wednesday with the best looking people, spending obscene amounts of money a
<p>But yeah... My sisters and my brother were born in the 50s, grew up in the 60s, became young adults in the 70s. They were still doing the same high-school bullshit with the same circle of friends in the 90s as I was becoming a young adult... and I saw I didn't want to be the next cycle of that circle. It was the same drama... the same circle of once popular kids sleeping with one another and endlessly reliving their glory days. <br /><br /><br />I mean... my Nephew is my age, almost my brother - and when we sit around and drink, we certainly love to retell the exploits of our high school and early young adult single days. It is fun to talk about when you were young and had the world by the balls. But we both LEFT it behind and sought things personally more rewarding. But my friends who stayed in the city I grew up in - they're still doing the same things, with the same people - exactly like I thought they would - and they're still stuck in their heads in their High School and early college days. <br /><
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<p>Nah, they were always there. Just waiting for a supportive outlet. </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">They are shallow, vapid, uninteresting, and often intolerable. And now there are millions of them.</div>
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<p>Nah, they were always there. Just waiting for a supportive outlet. </p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">They are shallow, vapid, uninteresting, and often intolerable. And now there are millions of them. </div>
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 >reasons - the least of which wasn't that ultimately it isn't  
 >fulfilling and is a bad look on someone over 25.    
  
 "Party like it's 1999" 
  
 My sister has been doing that for decades.  She was 25 in 1999.  And you're
absolutely right -- it's not a good look at all.  The worst part of it all
is -- the Facebook lifestyle has made it permanent for her. 
  
 I suspect this is the case for a lot of people: Facebook turned a lot of
people into lifetime twentysomethings, just like AOL brought Eternal September
to the Internet. 
  
 They are shallow, vapid, uninteresting, and often intolerable.  And now there
are millions of them. 
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<p>Most i know, are not like that. They do believe in 2nd chances. </p>
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<p>I'm like a woman about relationships. Done is done. </p>
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<p>I'm like a woman about relationships. Done is done. When I was single, and I'd get nostalgic for "how things were," I was really good at reminding myself of "why things that were, weren't anymore." <br /><br />When I hit about 45 - a bunch of my high school sweethearts started showing up on Facebook - quite a few of them telling me in private messages how unhappy they were in their current relationships, how they had regrets about our relationship, a couple of them were just straight out blunt. <br /><br />In all cases, I would have considered any move a downgrade...  I tried to be gentle... "You know, this is just a mid-life thing - where you start wondering what would have been... everyone goes through it. I did, it passes..." <br /><br />There is truth to that. A lot of it is just "glory daying". <br /><br />"When we were in our early 20's... we owned the world... it was party-rocking all week long!" <br /><br />Sure. But I'm 45 now. Also - I quit that lifestyle for a number of reasons - the least
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<p>I did several years later. ( going on 20+ years now )</p>
<p>But i would have done #1 again, without thinking twice and knowing the turmoil it would bring.   Sort of did in a way, she got 'better' and returned home a couple of years later.  But then things started getting sideways in her head again, and drifted away ( never said i was smart :) )</p>
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<p>To be fair, marriage was a one shot thing for me. If it didn't work out right the first time, I do not think I would have tried again. </p>
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<p>My first. me 25, her 18. </p>
<p>Problem is we grew up together, so we learned to ignore ( and in our case, totally mis-understand ) each others "shortcomings" over the years. Unfortunately some were severe mental illness that was not conquerable, that only got worse over time. From what i gather, even afterwards she had many 'dark days' to suffer thru on her own.</p>
<p>Was not from a lack of trying.</p>
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<p>I got married at 24, to a 19 year old. <br /><br /></p>
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<p>I did several years later. ( going on 20+ years now )</p>
<p>But i would have done #1 again, without thinking twice and knowing the turmoil it would bring.   Sort of did in a way, she got 'better' and returned home a couple of years later.  But then things started getting sideways in her head again, and drifted away ( never said i was smart :) )</p>
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<p>To be fair, marriage was a one shot thing for me. If it didn't work out right the first time, I do not think I would have tried again. </p>
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<p>My first. me 25, her 18. </p>
<p>Problem is we grew up together, so we learned to ignore ( and in our case, totally mis-understand ) each others "shortcomings" over the years. Unfortunately some were severe mental illness that was not conquerable, that only got worse over time. From what i gather, even afterwards she had many 'dark days' to suffer thru on her own.</p>
<p>Was not from a lack of trying.</p>
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<p>I got married at 24, to a 19 year old. <br /><br /></p>
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<p>To be fair, marriage was a one shot thing for me. If it didn't work out right the first time, I do not think I would have tried again. </p>
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<p>My first. me 25, her 18. </p>
<p>Problem is we grew up together, so we learned to ignore ( and in our case, totally mis-understand ) each others "shortcomings" over the years. Unfortunately some were severe mental illness that was not conquerable, that only got worse over time. From what i gather, even afterwards she had many 'dark days' to suffer thru on her own.</p>
<p>Was not from a lack of trying.</p>
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<p>I got married at 24, to a 19 year old. <br /><br /></p>
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<p>My first. me 25, her 18. </p>
<p>Problem is we grew up together, so we learned to ignore ( and in our case, totally mis-understand ) each others "shortcomings" over the years. Unfortunately some were severe mental illness that was not conquerable, that only got worse over time. From what i gather, even afterwards she had many 'dark days' to suffer thru on her own.</p>
<p>Was not from a lack of trying.</p>
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<p>I got married at 24, to a 19 year old. <br /><br /></p>
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<p>I got married at 24, to a 19 year old. <br /><br />We've been married 27 years now. Been together for about 28.5. <br /><br />Many people over the years have said things to the effect of, "I don't know how you do it, I couldn't put up with that..." <br /><br />I tell them, "I need someone who keeps me on a short leash." <br /><br />Nocse Te Ipsum. It isn't for other people to judge the dynamic of my relationship with my wife. There is *never* a time when I don't want to be hanging out with her, and usually, I'd rather hang out with her by myself than in any particular group. <br /><br />My Nephew told me once that his relationship with his (ex) wife was turning into best friends, and he hated that. I told him, "That is what you want... but, you've got to be able to bridge having her be your best friend and *still* wanting to f*ck." <br /><br />A couple of times in the past few years, I've been sitting in my car, and a woman has walked by out of the corner of my eye, and I instantly drew down on that
<p>In return, people ask her all the time how she can be with me, how she can put up with my arrested development and irreverent, laid back, nonplused attitude. <br /><br />She tells people she would be a neurotic mess without me telling her to calm down, relax, enjoy life, stop worrying - that things are going to happen and the tighter you try and control those things, the LESS likely you are to get the outcome you were desiring. <br /><br />We're complete opposites in many, many ways. But we're very alike too. And where we are opposite, those oppositions generally bring balance to the other person. <br /><br />The trick about thinking with your dick or thinking with your brain in finding a partner is - you need to balance THAT, too. Too little of one or the other - and it'll never work. People tend to overlook one or the other and focus solely on whichever one is most important to them. I started screwing around in 7th grade, was fully active by 8th grade, and had a reputation for "dating" the prettiest
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<p>Often times people dont pay attention and think with their crotch, not their brain. </p>
<p>Others use their brain, but dont realize their brain is screwed up. </p>
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<blockquote>relationship that is most important in most people's lives. This is a </blockquote>
<br /><br />To be honest, people is so bad at picking and carrying out these sorts of relationships that I am not eager to get in one myself. <br /><br />I keep hearing how great they are, but most people I know IRL who get into it end up badly burned by it. <br /><br />People are egotistical bastards who deserve to die and most likely don't care that much for your feelings. Being married makes no difference. Obviously, if the egotistical bastard you chose for yourself makes you feel bad, you need to find another egotistical bastard. <br /><br />In all honesty, the ones that say some hard truths to your face are much, much much better than the ones that only tell you what you wanna hear and then stab you in the back as soon as you turn the other way. Some people are very good at it and will get people to trust them after it is proven he stabbed them in the back. Motherfuckers. <br /><br />There is a saying in my language that translates to English as (closely) "The one who loves you the most is gonna make yo
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 >relationship that is most important in most people's lives.  This is a 
           
            
 To be honest, people is so bad at picking and carrying out these sorts of
relationships that I am not eager to get in one myself.           
          
 I keep hearing how great they are, but most people I know IRL who get into
it end up badly burned by it.         
        
 People are egotistical bastards who deserve to die and most likely don't
care that much for your feelings. Being married makes no difference. Obviously,
if the egotistical bastard you chose for yourself makes you feel bad, you
need to find another egotistical bastard.       
      
 In all honesty, the ones that say some hard truths to your face are much,
much much better than the ones that only tell you what you wanna hear and
then stab
you in the back as soon as you turn the other way. Some people are very good
at it and will get people to trust them after it is proven he stabbed them
in the back. Motherfuckers.     
    
 There is a saying in my language that translates to English as (closely)
"The one who loves you the most is gonna make you cry." The reason is that
people who loves you is going to care if you do something stupid, and is not
going to be afraid to grab you and shake you and tell you to stop being stupid.
  
  
 It is the ones that will smile at you and tell you you are doing a great
job when you juggle nitroglycerin you have to be extremely concerned about.

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<p>Well, i never said it was already popped.... </p>
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<p>Might I suggest marshmallows, chocolate and graham crackers might be a more appropriate and interactive snack? :D </p>
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<p>We have also been using Reese's Cups with our marshmallows. The problem tends to be if you're doing s'mores, it is cold, and the heat from the Marshmallow isn't enough to really get a good melt of the Reese's... which is ironic, being that Reese's tend to be a lower meltpoint chocolate than a Hershey's bar. </p>
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 Much of what I'm hearing here is not relevant to the topic at hand, and to
get it back on track, I would ignore the digressions, jump back to an earlier
point, and say:   
    
 1) Yes, don't cut yourself down. Don't ever sell yourself short; don't belittle
yourself.   
 2) Don't let anyone else cut you down either.   
    
 I'm hearing some stuff about "autists" and "geeks" or whatever. We've all
had our socially-inept moments, and it can be hard to separate the need to
accept constructive criticism from the need to push back against overly-aggressive
or non-constructive critism or bullying. But it's necessary.   
  
  
 A little self-acceptance (even if it stems from "fitting into a niche") goes
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<p>Might I suggest marshmallows, chocolate and graham crackers might be a more appropriate and interactive snack? :D </p>
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<p>Normally, i just bring the popcorn. </p>
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<p>The real question seems to be, which one of us constantly pours the gasoline, and who is the other that constantly strikes the match. ;) </p>
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<p>Well, this didnt go well.</p>
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<p>Here is the problem - and it is always the problem. You're projecting your emotions, the dynamics and norms of YOUR relationship, as an absolute, as a standard. You are going, "I wouldn't like that, it would hurt my feelings, and my significant other wouldn't like that, it would hurt her feelings." <br /><br />Which is fine, on a personal level. <br /><br />When you tell someone else who is experiencing this, "that is abusive," this is where problems arise. "That would feel abusive to me..." is entirely different than "that is abusive." <br /><br />The first one sets personal boundaries. The second one tries to extend your personal boundaries to OTHER people in their own personal lives separate from yours. That is where the political lines get drawn. Because one side is better at "I don't like this thing, but if it floats your boat, it is none of my business," than the other. The other side tends to go, "I don't like this thing so much that not only do I not do it, but it offends me when YOU do it, too
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />I agree, forget about whether you can draw parallels to politics. You can draw parallels of just about everything to politics, and most of us have had more than we can take of that. <br /><br />We're talking about a relationship here. We're talking about THE relationship that is most important in most people's lives. This is a context where you DO consider "teh feelz" because you CARE about the other person. So yes, you choose words and phrases that get the message across without hurting the other person's feelings. Your spouse/SO/partner/whatever isn't some random anon on the Internet who's going around looking to be offended. When you care about someone you don't trash talk them, not to their face, not behind their back. <br /><br />I can't believe anyone would actually feel otherwise. </div>
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<p>Normally, i just bring the popcorn. </p>
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<p>The real question seems to be, which one of us constantly pours the gasoline, and who is the other that constantly strikes the match. ;) </p>
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<p>Well, this didnt go well.</p>
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 >Your position on this, and the response you're seeing against it,  
 >breaks *predictably* along lines of political ideology.   
 >  
 >It isn't "above politics". It is intrinsically linked to the  
 >foundations of political ideology that science has studied and  
 >confirmed multiple times in peer reviewed research.   
 >  
 >  
 >Asserting that it is "above politics/ideology" illustrates an  
 >inherent bias. "I want you to agree with this basic premise, and I'm  
 >going to browbeat you by claiming that it is of a higher moral ground  
 >than political ideology, shaming you if you disagree."   
 >  
 >  
 >This is a common technique of the intellectual dishonesty of the  
 >arguments of the Left spectrum.  
 >  
 >"Relationship councilor types," are "social scientists" and social  
 >science is a *soft* science. Many people recognize
this and  
 >understand that the social sciences are one of the most damaging  
 >studies of the sciences to the credibility overall of the scientific  
 >community - although again, *this* opinion also tends to break along  
 >lines of partisan political identity and ideology.   
 >  
 >How about simple, basic stuff like accept that when someone says,  
 >"You people," or "Your side," rational people understand the  
 >"rhetorical you" is being invoked and that the phrase isn't being  
 >used as an absolute, it isn't racist or xenophobic or sexist - and  
 >you people need to be less sensitive on topics like this.  
 >"Categorical language" is something people use every day with a  
 >common understanding and no one gets butthurt - except YOU people.  
 >Most of the opinions of the social sciences belong in the propaganda  
 >room.   
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 >>Quibble all day about whether it's abusive or merely bad, we were  
 >>talking about something someone's wife apparently said (? I'm not  
 >>clear on the context.) Most relationship councilor types would agree  
 >>that's not a constructive way to express a point; avoid categorical  
 >>language like "you always do X."   
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 >>Simple, basic stuff that should be above politics/ideology. (That  
 >>stuff belongs in the propaganda room.)   
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 I agree, forget about whether you can draw parallels to politics.  You can
draw parallels of just about everything to politics, and most of us have had
more than we can take of that. 
  
 We're talking about a relationship here.  We're talking about THE relationship
that is most important in most people's lives.  This is a context where you
DO consider "teh feelz" because you CARE about the other person.  So yes,
you choose words and phrases that get the message across without hurting the
other person's feelings.  Your spouse/SO/partner/whatever isn't some random
anon on the Internet who's going around looking to be offended.  When you
care about someone you don't trash talk them, not to their face, not behind
their back. 
  
 I can't believe anyone would actually feel otherwise. 
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<p>The real question seems to be, which one of us constantly pours the gasoline, and who is the other that constantly strikes the match. ;) </p>
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<p>Well, this didnt go well.</p>
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<p>Well, this didnt go well.</p>
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<p>Your position on this, and the response you're seeing against it, breaks *predictably* along lines of political ideology. <br /><br />It isn't "above politics". It is intrinsically linked to the foundations of political ideology that science has studied and confirmed multiple times in peer reviewed research. <br /><br /><br />Asserting that it is "above politics/ideology" illustrates an inherent bias. "I want you to agree with this basic premise, and I'm going to browbeat you by claiming that it is of a higher moral ground than political ideology, shaming you if you disagree." <br /><br /><br />This is a common technique of the intellectual dishonesty of the arguments of the Left spectrum.<br /><br />"Relationship councilor types," are "social scientists" and social science is a *soft* science. Many people recognize this and understand that the social sciences are one of the most damaging studies of the sciences to the credibility overall of the scientific community - although again, *this* opinion als
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />Quibble all day about whether it's abusive or merely bad, we were talking about something someone's wife apparently said (? I'm not clear on the context.) Most relationship councilor types would agree that's not a constructive way to express a point; avoid categorical language like "you always do X." <br /><br />Simple, basic stuff that should be above politics/ideology. (That stuff belongs in the propaganda room.) </div>
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 Quibble all day about whether it's abusive or merely bad, we were talking
about something someone's wife apparently said (? I'm not clear on the context.)
Most relationship councilor types would agree that's not a constructive way
to express a point; avoid categorical language like "you always do X."  
  
 Simple, basic stuff that should be above politics/ideology. (That stuff belongs
in the propaganda room.) 
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<p>I dont see it as that. I see it as an honest expression of what she thinks. </p>
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<p>Now "you suck because.. " sure, but that didnt happen.</p>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />^abusive language. </div>
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<p>I think it is one of our biggest problems in society today that frank, brutal and honest language is seen as "abusive". <br /><br />I DGAF about your feels - your feels are not as important as facts. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. I'm not being ABUSIVE to you - I'm being honest. Of course, we had that for 4 years, and half the WORLD lost their collective, fragile minds having to hear him not care about their feels on Twitter every day. </p>
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<blockquote>2021-03-29 18:09 from LoanShark <br /><br />^abusive language. <br /><br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />I don't think that is abusive language as much as it is unsensitive language. <br /><br /><br />My friends used to tell me my life must suck because I meassure everytnig in terms of success and failure. </div>
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 > ^abusive language.     
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 I don't think that is abusive language as much as it is unsensitive language.
  
  
 My friends used to tell me my life must suck because I meassure everytnig
in terms of success and failure. 
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 ^abusive language. 
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<p>Current wife one day  "your life must suck, you only see things one way, no colors in life just shades of grey and no reaction at all"  </p>
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<p>Could not say it better.</p>
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<p>You're doing this to yourself. It is because you're probably highly intelligent - and you can't shut down your train of thought like a simple, average person - and this is probably why you have difficulty connecting to people. They're too dumb for you. <br /><br />It is a frequent problem for people in the kind of circles we run around in - where we prefer to keep our social contacts distant and separated by a keyboard and monitor. <br /><br />Stop finding the cloud in every silver lining. </p>
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<p>You're doing this to yourself. It is because you're probably highly intelligent - and you can't shut down your train of thought like a simple, average person - and this is probably why you have difficulty connecting to people. They're too dumb for you. <br /><br />It is a frequent problem for people in the kind of circles we run around in - where we prefer to keep our social contacts distant and separated by a keyboard and monitor. <br /><br />Stop finding the cloud in every silver lining. </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Fri Mar 12 2021 10:40:51 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=darknetuser">darknetuser</a> </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">Hello, everybody. <br /><br />I feel very weird this week. It turns out that some project I have kicked into motion has actually atracted some people who is interested. <br /><br />At first I felt incredibly happy that I had managed to create something that somebody found valuable. By that I mean I felt I was having the best week I had in the last two years. <br /><br />Then I realized the reason why I was so happy about it is because nobody ever gives a fucking damn about anything I do, or has since when I was born, so the experience of being socially accepted (even by the sort of nerds without social life the project attracts) was actually new to me. <br /><br />I think this has highlighted how much of a broken person I am so I am having a bit of a backslash now. </div>
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<p>When i went 'away; for college i kept in touch with no one. Big middle finger as i walked out.  I came back locally to finish up, and the 2 guys that i hung out with happened to also be locals so we have kept in touch ever since.  Funny, we were all born within a week of each other.</p>
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<p>High school, only one person, unless you count the best friend's family i grew up as 'part of', and later married into ( and then divorced out of ). I sort of keep in touch with them.  Its spotty, and difficult at times.  </p>
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 I feel very weird this week. It turns out that some project I have kicked
into motion has actually atracted some people who is interested.       
      
 At first I felt incredibly happy that I had managed to create something that
somebody found valuable. By that I mean I felt I was having the best week
I had in the last two years.     
    
 Then I realized the reason why I was so happy about it is because nobody
ever gives a fucking damn about anything I do, or has since when I was born,
so the experience of being socially accepted (even by the sort of nerds without
social life the project attracts) was actually new to me.   
  
 I think this has highlighted how much of a broken person I am so I am having
a bit of a backslash now. 
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 >One problem created by going away to college, and made even worse by   
 
 >the Internet, is that the people you meet end up being far away and you
   
 >can't hang out with them.  Some of you folks for example, I'd love to  
  
 >hang out and sit by the firepit and quaff a few beers.  Not happening  
  
 >because we're all over.  Same with my college friends -- I miss a few  
  
 >of them but they're hundreds of miles away.  (On the other hand, pretty
   
 >much everyone from high school can go die in a fire.)     
 >     
 >    
    
 I share the sentiment regarding school and high-school. I can save less than
5 people from my early years. Everybody else can have their eyes gouged by
ducks as far as I am concerned.   
  
 Also, wait til you hear of people falling in love online and discovering
they are in opposite sides of the world :) 
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is that the people you meet end up being far away and you can't hang out with
them.  Some of you folks for example, I'd love to hang out and sit by the
firepit and quaff a few beers.  Not happening because we're all over.  Same
with my college friends -- I miss a few of them but they're hundreds of miles
away.  (On the other hand, pretty much everyone from high school can go die
in a fire.) 
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<p>I've always felt that a couple of guys who my wife didn't pick feel like she picked a loser to marry. <br /><br /><br />And a couple of my ex-girlfriends have said very unkind things about my wife to me over the years. <br /><br />We've been together for 28 years. So I think it worked out well for *us*... <br /><br />And honestly - knowing my wife - the guys she rejected weren't a good match for her. One in particular, was a guy who thought he was in "all" ways superior to me. He thought he was a better person, more intellectual, physically superior - and he was smitten with my wife extra bad, and *never* understood her rejection of him, made worse by how devoted she became to me. <br /><br /><br />I've always felt bad for the dude - I think it was a great disappointment to him that he had a lot of difficulty overcoming. <br /><br />But I don't think he ever realized it was as much <em>she wasn't the one for HIM</em> as it was that he wasn't the one for her. <br /><br />I got dumped in high school 
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 >I dunno, when I was college age I was looking for a girlfriend that    
  
 >could be a long-term stable relationship.  Found her, too.       
 >       
 >      
      
 Most girls when I was to College were losers, and ended up with loser boys.
    
    
 I didn't get crap at College. A worthless paper that says I ran through the
whole education program is the best I got. I didn't even make long term friends.
  
  
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be a long-term stable relationship.  Found her, too. 
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<p>But yeah, psychotic unstable girlfriends are *fun* when you're high-school or college-aged and party-rockin' all the time. :) It led to all kinds of Jim Morrison type escapades that made my fame grow among my social circles and pretty young I realized that MOST girls don't want a boyfriend... they want an accessory... like a Coach handbag. You're not competing with the other GUYS, so much as competing to be the thing on her arm that makes all the other girls want that thing on THEIR arm. You can leverage THAT into a circuit of trips to the clinic to ask your doctor, "Should I be concerned about this?!?" <br /><br />:) <br /><br />That is as much true with this kind of female at 45 as it was at 14, from what I see. The woman that I married saw through this. I had to chase her down for a long time. She made me get to know her. She got to know me. She made it clear that she wasn't going to eff around and that she was perfectly willing to move on immediately with no do-overs if I made any mistakes. At the s
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<p>LOL... my niece told me that she exclusively dates black guys after seeing the way my Nephew and I treated our girlfriends in High school...  (We're all about the same age). <br /><br />I told her, "Yet I married my wife and we've been married for 27 years and have been successful in our relationship and our finances and you see how I treat her, how supportive I have been.... The lesson you should have learned was, "don't be someone who is easily discarded, shallow, superficially pretty and easily replaceable."" <br /><br />My niece is still single at 44 and has had two fairly casual but long term relationships. There is more going on - she was raised by men-hating liberal feminist women in my family, who are also all single spinsters - and come from a long line of single spinsters. <br /><br />The girls I dated when I was single were like Happy Meals. Cheap, disposable, and consistently amusing for the investment I made in them. Not all of them... but the majority of them were. I'm not a mysoginist -
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<blockquote>28 years later, ex-bimbo is still single - and probably still certain </blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote>that her emotions and reality is far deeper, complex, full of truths</blockquote>
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<blockquote>and more complete than the one my wife and I share. ;)  </blockquote>
<br />Bingo. TBH, life is hard word and deeep connection, sexual or otherwise, is secondary to just showing up for each other and doing the boring drudgery and acting with commitment. Especially if you have kids. I don't, but that's another story. <br /><br />Sounds like your ex is a Head, you may have dodged a bullet. ;) <br /><br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I think there's a place for bizarro psychedelic energy on occasion, too. </div>
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 *hard work 
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 >that her emotions and reality is far deeper, complex, full of truths   

 >and more complete than the one my wife and I share. ;)     
    
 Bingo. TBH, life is hard word and deeep connection, sexual or otherwise,
is secondary to just showing up for each other and doing the boring drudgery
and acting with commitment. Especially if you have kids. I don't, but that's
another story.   
    
 Sounds like your ex is a Head, you may have dodged a bullet. ;)   
  
  
 Don't get me wrong, I think there's a place for bizarro psychedelic energy
on occasion, too. 
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<p>Yup. Exactly. <br /><br />When we were engaged, my wife, then my fiancée was at a party and was talking to my ex-girlfriend, a cosmic, dippy, experimental, avant-garde airheaded bimbo.... and said vapid ex told my wife about her new boyfriend, <br /><br /><br />"You can't understand how in love we are, how deep our connection is..." <br /><br />28 years later, ex-bimbo is still single - and probably still certain that her emotions and reality is far deeper, complex, full of truths and more complete than the one my wife and I share. ;) <br /><br />  </p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Wed Jan 27 2021 12:29:17 EST</span> <span>from <a href="do_template?template=user_show?who=LoanShark">LoanShark</a> </span></div>
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<blockquote>the themes - but I feel like they're the kind of musicians who think <br />they're far more enlightened about *everything* than *anyone* else.  </blockquote>
<br />BUT WE'RE PSYCHEDELIC PROG-ROCKERS SO WE UNDERSTAND THE DEEP TRUTHS </div>
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relationship - especially kids.  Even kids should come second. 
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 >Oh 'bella! I'm so sorry!    
 >  
 >If you need to talk, I've had some serious heartbreak, though... not  
 >after that kind of time. I mean my husband is sick of me, but not in  
 >an acute way... just... can't stand the whole thing anymore.  
 >Especially under Corona.  
  
 Lots of people is in that situation. They get married and the relationship
rots, but by the time you want to break out there are kids and mortages...

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<p>Oh 'bella! I'm so sorry! </p>
<p>If you need to talk, I've had some serious heartbreak, though... not after that kind of time. I mean my husband is sick of me, but not in an acute way... just... can't stand the whole thing anymore. Especially under Corona.<br /><br />but I've been cheated on and treated like trash after falling in love...</p>
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 >Subject: Re: Caution, self Pity Ahead.      
 >        
 >> Mon Aug 03 2020 11:40:31 AM EDT from darknetuser @ Uncensored       
 >>Subject: Re: Caution, self Pity Ahead.      
 >>      
 >>  I suck at comforting people too. I am probably a closet autist.     
 
 >>      
 >>IMO it is much, much better to discover your significant other is a   
  
 >>shady bastard before you get seriously engaged. I mean it. My mother  
   
 >>discovered which sort of backstabbing bastard my father was once I    
 
 >>had been born and there were mortages to be paid, at which point you  
   
 >>can't really go through a divorce or anything, and are stuck with the 
    
 >>bastard forever.       
 >>      
 >>       
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 >       
 >      
 >13 years, 'Nuff said.       
 >      
 >We're working on a resolution. It will not be easy. Fortunately,
     
 >there are no kids (I'm infertile) and the mortgage is paid.      
 >      
      
 My mistake, sorry.     
    
 Well as long as you have in mind what you want to accomplish, it is not that
bad, believe me.   
  
 Best wishes. 
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">I suck at comforting people too. I am probably a closet autist. <br /><br />IMO it is much, much better to discover your significant other is a shady bastard before you get seriously engaged. I mean it. My mother discovered which sort of backstabbing bastard my father was once I had been born and there were mortages to be paid, at which point you can't really go through a divorce or anything, and are stuck with the bastard forever. </div>
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<p>13 years, 'Nuff said.</p>
<p>We're working on a resolution. It will not be easy. Fortunately, there are no kids (I'm infertile) and the mortgage is paid.</p>
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<p>Ouch.  That's terrible, and I'm so sorry to hear about it.  If you don't want to go into any further detail that's fine, or if talking about it helps, that's fine too.</p>
<p>I've never had my heart broken by a love interest, but I've had friends walk away without an explanation, and yes, it hurts.  So this must be worse.  Dunno if that sounds compassionate or not, but that was the intention.  I suck at this.</p>
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<p>I read it as compassion. You don't suck as much as you think.</p>
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 IMO it is much, much better to discover your significant other is a shady
bastard before you get seriously engaged. I mean it. My mother discovered
which sort of backstabbing bastard my father was once I had been born and
there were mortages to be paid, at which point you can't really go through
a divorce or anything, and are stuck with the bastard forever. 
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<p>Ouch.  That's terrible, and I'm so sorry to hear about it.  If you don't want to go into any further detail that's fine, or if talking about it helps, that's fine too.</p>
<p>I've never had my heart broken by a love interest, but I've had friends walk away without an explanation, and yes, it hurts.  So this must be worse.  Dunno if that sounds compassionate or not, but that was the intention.  I suck at this.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Caution, </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Self pity ahead</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong></strong><strong><em>Do </em><em>not read this post unless </em><em>you are made of compassion, I am critically fragile.</em></strong></span></p>
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<p>1 week ago my life fell apart, shattered by the man I love.</p>
<p>it has been the longest week of my life, a week in which I discovered that the man I loved, and would have married without hesitation had vanished, to be replaced by some shadowy figure who I just don't know, who looked and acted like my love, but wasn't.</p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">A veiled figure living a secret, and sordid life, hidden from me "to protect me." </span></p>
<p>It didn't tho'</p>
<p>I've lost my wonderful life.</p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"> I can never go home, the home I spent over a decade creating is a now a memory loaded with sadness, my beautiful garden, into which I put hours of planning and work, and finally finished just a couple of months ago, might now just as well be a wasteland, for my joy has been stolen.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">I may never be the same again.</span></p>
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 >me out and they always invite, so I don't do any paying. I am starting 
 
 >to feel like a leech now.   
  
 My great-aunt used to comment about that, she used to go out with a bunch
of people for dinner from time to time, and they split the check, but she
was the only one who was not a couple and ended up paying twice as much as
everyone else. 
  
 Now that I think about it, she probably died on purpose so she wouldn't have
to do that anymore. 
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 One of the subcultures I inhabit is very old-fashioned. The dude always pays.

  
 I think they're Neo-Victorians, or something? Still haven't figured it out.
Don't @ me. 
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the leftovers for me but then, the orgy place is mine and I offer it for free,
so...   
  
 Now I think about it, I nearly ever go out on my own. They always drag me
out and they always invite, so I don't do any paying. I am starting to feel
like a leech now. 
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doing the asking, I'm doing the paying. If they ask I do kind of assume they'll
pay, but I'll offer to chip in anyway just in case they don't think like I
do. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4494058</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2019 02:32:46 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4494058</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4494058@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I have no problem paying for someone else that I invite out to a meal. If
I invite them out (male or female) I should be prepared to pay.  
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4493722</link><pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2019 13:21:32 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4493722</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4493722@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > Except that in that case, it's exactly what's expected       
 >      
 >      
 > And yes. That's exactly what he was doing. Very traumatizing for some 
   
 >of the women involved, who were kinda left wondering, "was it something
   
 >I said?"     
 >     
 >    
    
 To be frank, I reject the notion that you are entitled to a free meal because
you are a woman. Maybe that explains why I am still single, but sorry, I am
not an ATM that can spit unlimited funds for people to take advantage from.
  
  
 Going on a date and expecting the other party to cover your costs is very
ugly. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4493536</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2019 18:37:08 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4493536</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4493536@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > I have seen many of those, but it is usually the girl who is in it for
   
 >the free meal.     
    
 Except that in that case, it's exactly what's expected   
  
  
 And yes. That's exactly what he was doing. Very traumatizing for some of
the women involved, who were kinda left wondering, "was it something I said?"

]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4493530</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:43:09 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4493530</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4493530@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > 2019-10-18 12:02 from LoanShark     
 >      
 > LMAO. But brutal. Not as hurtful as California's "dine and dash dater"
   
 >who finally got arrested, but close!     
 >     
 >    
    
 So, did this guy go to dinner dates and then disappear, leaving the girl
to pay?   
  
 I have seen many of those, but it is usually the girl who is in it for the
free meal. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4493499</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2019 16:02:00 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4493499</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4493499@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 LMAO. But brutal. Not as hurtful as California's "dine and dash dater" who
finally got arrested, but close! 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4493455</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2019 11:59:56 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4493455</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4493455@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[That is online dating for you.   
  
 A friend of mine used to show up at dating sites as a member of the opposite
sex in order to get other people excited, arrange a date and then not show
up. Such a motherfucker he is, hahahaha. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4493237</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2019 15:06:20 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4493237</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4493237@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Sounds like a medium.com or Jezebel story in the making! 
  
 Seriously - that's lame. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4493023</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2019 21:14:54 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4493023</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4493023@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[So my political aunt and a friend of her have been hanging around some dating
site. They finally found two guys who "listen to them and understand them",
and dated them, making them make a trip from one extreme of the country to
the other.     
    
 Now my aunt is complaining that "they only wanted to fuck" and that they
went home angry because of the lack of fuck.   
  
 I still don't know if this is funny or sad. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4488848</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:04:43 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4488848</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4488848@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > As for RMS, if you go through his writings and things that have been  

 >written about him over the year, you will uncover a love life that is  

 >equally as brain damaged as the rest of him.  The guy is a bona fide   
  
 Link? I mean, I don't disbelieve you at all, but I'm curious to read more
about the freakshow ;) 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4488847</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:03:08 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4488847</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4488847@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > Consent and age of consent are a huge grey area, and it's hopeless to 
 
 >expect the law to cover it properly.   
  
 The age is a factor legally, but the real issue here is the psychological
manipulation (grooming, false or misleading promises) and coercion involved
with Epstein's victims. I mean, if the victims are telling the truth, there
was border crossing, coercion (witholding of a passport), etc. To echo some
of the words in the Lorelei Lee article, that's human trafficking in the most
agreed-upon sense. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4488845</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 15:46:00 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4488845</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4488845@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Agreed with all of the above except the baseless complaint about DJT.  There
are a lot of dynamics at play here, and the law simply says "under 18 bad,
over 18 ok".  So a 60 year old can go to bed with an 18 year old and it's
legally fine, but an 18 year old can go to bed with a 17 year old and he's
a rapist.  (We are assuming consent is given in both cases.) 
  
 Consent and age of consent are a huge grey area, and it's hopeless to expect
the law to cover it properly. 
  
 As for RMS, if you go through his writings and things that have been written
about him over the year, you will uncover a love life that is equally as brain
damaged as the rest of him.  The guy is a bona fide freak, and if someone
needed to pick the dirty old man out from a lineup, they'd do just fine by
selecting the guy who doesn't shave or cut his hair, doesn't shower, and eats
things he picks out of his feet. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4488582</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Sep 2019 13:45:51 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4488582</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4488582@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > 2019-09-28 22:17 from darknetuser     
 >You know, I read at Stallman's site, in response to Twitter banning    

 >Castro, that Twitter should be banning "Bullshitter" (Trump).       
 >      
 > You would think that he would have learnt how bad cancel culture is   
 
 >after being cancelled. He is getting it no way, I'd say.     
 >     
 >    
    
  
 Moving the discussion from Linux/Unix to a more appropriate room for the
subject matter I'm about to post. 
  
 ... 
  
 I'm not defending Stallman, I've had it up to here with his brand of crazy,
but this is about what you should expect from a severe aspie/OCD case such
as him. He's entirely focused on (his particular version of) Truth, and political
reality will always be a secondary concern to him. (This has been obvious
for years from his constant nitpickery about "correct" language.) 
  
 Trump IS a pathological liar, but banning
him from twitter would simply play into his hands, he's playing up his martyr/victim
complex enough already as it is. 
  
 ... 
  
 Back on the topic of Stallman, prostitution, underage sex, and coercion,
and the reason for moving this thread to this room. This all falls into a
huge grey area, so it's inherently very difficult to frame the discussion.
Ultimately I think that Stallman said some things that are indefensible due
to their simple-mindedness. 
  
 I take the view that prostitution is not always wrong in and of itself, but
when there is a hugely lopsided power dynamic in play, between a billionaire
and a 17-year old, that is a major red flag that should be obvious enough
to a guy like Minsky. It's a red flag that there is probably some coercion
involved. If you want to pay a sex worker? Respect her consent, her boundaries,
her autonomy and agency as a human being. 
  
 Like I said,
a challenging subject to frame and define where you draw the lines, but in
the case of Epstein and his victims, really not that hard. For much more on
this subject, Lorelei Lee says it better than I ever could: 
  
 https://nplusonemag.com/issue-35/essays/cashconsent/ 
  
 Hugely important, IMO. ^^^ 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4488450</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:17:36 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4488450</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4488450@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[You know, I read at Stallman's site, in response to Twitter banning Castro,
that Twitter should be banning "Bullshitter" (Trump).   
  
 You would think that he would have learnt how bad cancel culture is after
being cancelled. He is getting it no way, I'd say. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4485860</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2019 23:10:26 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4485860</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4485860@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > 2019-09-18 12:36 from LoanShark       
 >        
 > But he went beyond that, right? I mean, he was basically arguing that 
     
 >there was nothing wrong with a guy in his mid-70s sleeping with a      

 >17-year-old.       
 >        
      
 Meh, even if he is wrong in that one (and you could argue the case), that
is really no reason for being forced to resign IMO.     
    
 You know, many 17 year old girls are at their phisical peak... it is just
when they open their mouth that they turn into a turn off :P We all know that
legal age of consent is a very arbitrary thing so I am not pulling my hair
if somebody thinks age of consent should be 18.85 years while other thinks
it should be 17.43.   
  
 I also think that a girl in age of consent should be allowed to put whatever
she likes in her pussy, be it a cucumber, my penis, or the penis of a dirty
old dude. Now, afaik Stallman was
arguing that the case we are concerned about was not a rape / sex assault
case... well I don't know about that and I frankly don't care. He is entitled
to his wrong or right opinion and I can't see why this one is any worse than
anything he has done or said so far. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4485742</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:36:37 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4485742</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4485742@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 But he went beyond that, right? I mean, he was basically arguing that there
was nothing wrong with a guy in his mid-70s sleeping with a 17-year-old. 
  
 Kinda makes this post less than believable: https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September_2019_(Sex_between_an_adult_and_a_child_is_wrong)

  
 I don't necessarily have a problem with prostitution, but this is all a little
bit much. He waved away the coercive aspects of it (there's a huge difference
between consensual sex work and the other kind) and totally missed the broader
point of the discussion... on top of that, I'm hearing claims (which I cannot
substantiate without doing more research) about his attitude towards women
over the years 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4485448</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2019 17:44:58 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4485448</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4485448@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 And, RMS should have recognized that with Epstein and Minksy both dead, the
question isn't really about whether Minsky was guilty. The question is about
the behavior of MIT administration subsequent to Epstein's conviction. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4485447</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2019 17:42:51 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4485447</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4485447@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 It's a bipartisan mob. Stallman's words were being slightly misrepresented
by news outlets on all sides (incl. New York Post.) He should have known better.
But, you know, he has a certain type of mentality, so he just didn't have
the judgment to keep his mouth shut. 
  
 Minsky and Epstein are both dead now. It was really irresponsible of him
to speculate about events that are now known only to a few with vested interests.

]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4463014</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 22:46:59 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4463014</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4463014@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Correct. 
  
 She's lucky she didn't know me in high school. I would have been argumentative
AF, and dealing with all of this in a very emotionally immature way which
could even have been said to be dangerous. 
  
 Now I'm just waiting and giving the space needed for it all to seem less
dire. But in the interim, I'm bloody miserable and feeling inadequate to the
task ahead. 
  
 At least my primary relationship is stable enough, albeit boring and lackluster
at the moment. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4462811</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2019 23:18:06 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4462811</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4462811@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[<html><body>

<p>You can be right or you can be happy.  Choose wisely. </p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4462771</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2019 19:11:53 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4462771</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4462771@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Gah. pandora was wrong, but prescient. 
  
 Back in secondary-relationship hell. 
  
 I don't want to go into details, but I'm being made to feel like I just can't
do anything right for this person... 
  
 Is almost like gaslighting. Almost. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4461321</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:30:07 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4461321</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4461321@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Share and enjoy. 
 ________________ 
 Go stick your head in a pig. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4456832</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2019 15:28:39 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4456832</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4456832@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ >Shared Pain is lessened. Shared Joy is magnified.   
  
 A problem shared is a problem multiplied 15 million times. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4454395</link><pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2019 18:53:30 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4454395</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4454395@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[<GRIN> Well yes.. Where else would that come from? 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4453885</link><pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2019 15:58:53 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4453885</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4453885@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > 2019-05-24 13:01 from wizard of aahz   
 >Shared Pain is lessened. Shared Joy is magnified.   
 >   
 >  
  
 OK Callahan. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4453427</link><pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2019 17:01:01 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4453427</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4453427@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Shared Pain is lessened. Shared Joy is magnified. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4453087</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2019 14:27:46 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4453087</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4453087@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Heh... truth be told, she could just as easily reach me in any of a variety
of other ways. 
  
 I don't really know why she doesn't hang out here anymore.  I know she gets
on FB to post lots of silliness with her friends who probably don't quite
get the whole BBS thing. 
  
 Sharing the joy is pretty nice.  There's fun to be had there. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4452594</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2019 02:38:18 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4452594</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4452594@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > And I like to see my friends do well for themselves.   
  
 The way I see it is, anything worth enjoying, is worth sharing the joy. 
That makes it a million times better.  But that may just be me; I'm quite
the codependent. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4452593</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2019 02:36:46 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4452593</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4452593@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > Eh, I'm still on FB.   
  
 Yeah, and your sister immediately stopped visiting us here as soon as she
could reach you there. 
  
 Thanks a lot.  :P 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4452469</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 17:43:00 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4452469</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4452469@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 I like to see folks doing well, actually.  I've never cared what others thought
of me.  I live under my own terms. 
  
 I like seeing other folks doing well, as when I say I like you, I mean it.
 And I like to see my friends do well for themselves. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4452408</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 13:04:59 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4452408</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4452408@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I have a friend who owns a fairly successful business and has the toys to
show for it.  Sports cars, cool watches, etc. 
  
 He recently shut down his Instagram account, because he felt that other people
are living better lives than he is, and he's tired of seeing it. 
  
 I'm not one to suffer from depression over other peoples lives.  Then again,
I'm not one to generally suffer from depression. 
  
 Not giving a shit helps. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4452381</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 11:11:16 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4452381</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4452381@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Eh, I'm still on FB. 
  
 But I have to be selective.  Some of it is toxic, to be sure, but sometimes
you find a gem. 
  
 Mostly, though, it is the only way I can remain in any semblance of contact
with the several disparate people I've met in my life. 
  
 Since high school, I joined the military, then went to college, then moved
to Maryland where I've had three jobs working for radically different products
(and rather different sets of people).  I liked many of the people I've met,
and still like them today.  So it's nice to see how things are going with
them over the years.  
  
 Although, at this age, I'm starting to see the deaths, which kind of adds
a different sort of weird to it all.  I think there's always that group of
people who die in their 50s/60s or so that you knew in high school or whatever...
those are the ones who are dropping off at the moment.  A bit dark, I realize,
but I guess that's part of the overall experience of knowing enough folks.

]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4452278</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 05:31:45 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4452278</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4452278@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ I think most of my online meetings with real world people met on a BBS had
to do with "Bring over all your warez and a box of blank floppies."  
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4452108</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2019 18:36:48 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4452108</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4452108@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > How many of us right here, many of whom were social outcasts, found   
 >friendship at the other end of a BBS?  And those posted thoughts and   
 >comments led to real life relationships?   
  
 That was easier when the majority of the people you met on a message board
were likely to be within driving distance.  Those are the relationships most
of us are still looking for.  The ones where people have things in common
but are still nearby enough to reach.  The ones where you can say "meet me
at the river bank this afternoon and we'll spend the afternoon tossing pellets
of sodium into the water" and they'll be there. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4452107</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2019 18:25:44 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4452107</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4452107@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ >  "Some of the existing literature on social media suggests there's an 
 
 >enormous amount of social comparison that happens.  When you look at   
 >other people's lives, particularly on Instagram, it's easy to conclude 
 
 >that everyone else's life is cooler or better than yours."   
  
 I went into a major depressive episode shortly after joining F*c*book.  One
of my friends suggested that the two were connected.  Who knows ... he may
have been right.  I eventually closed my account because everyone over there
is a spoiled whiny teenage drama queen ... exactly the type I don't want to
keep company with. 
  
 I want to keep company with the kind of people who would spot the grammatical
error in the previous paragraph. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4452106</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2019 18:21:48 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4452106</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4452106@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > Is it perception or reality?     
  
 (Asked by the very same person who is very fond of saying "Perception *is*
reality.") 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4448836</link><pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2019 12:26:33 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4448836</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4448836@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[<html><body>

<p> </p>
<blockquote>
<div class="message_header"><span>Tue Apr 09 2019 02:04:44 PM EDT</span> <span>from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored </span></div>
<div class="message_content">
<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY">
<blockquote><br />I get the idea though. I'd like to have more of the kind of friends</blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote>that live nearby and can get together and do stuff all the time. <br /><br /><br /></blockquote>
<br />People are overrated. </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>Ragnar and I are in accord. I need to be more careful what I wish for</p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4441057</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2019 17:24:27 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4441057</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4441057@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Heh... yeah, it'd be funny to meet.  Very different people, Ragnar and me,
but I think we're both decent folks once you get past the bullshit. 
  
 But then, we've thrown barbs and compliments at each other for over a decade.
 We've seen pictures of each other, and kind of glimpsed each other's pain
over the years. 
  
 Social outcast?  Me?  I dunno... maybe by choice in some ways.  I can't handle
the overhead of large groups, and I don't get out a lot.  I have a small concern
that I'll eventually withdraw completely and nobody will know I exist (which
only becomes a concern in old age when you think your body might stain the
floor). 
  
 But I've always been comfortable communicating with disembodied souls.  It
might come from having read a lot of books when I was young, as you get a
feel for an author's personality from their turns of phrase, and as you improve
your own writing to express
who you are as accurately as possible with the words available to you, in
all their subtlties. 
  
 Oh, heh... I met Melvin online, now that I think of it.  I read his personals
advert, and figured I needed to write something that would separate me from
what I assumed he was receiving from others.  Apparently, I accomplished that
handily, as I think he still has that e-mail somewhere. 
  
 But it's still nice to meet in person, to see the eyebrowse, and the hear
the tenor of the voice. 
  
 As for juggling, I haven't done that in too long.  But I had a chance to
do that 'steal the balls' trick with a juggler at that event I attended in
San Diego.  I should get some decent juggling balls and get back in practice
again, as it's a fun way to pass the time, and I used to be just a tad above
average at it. 
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<p>I keep telling people to learn to juggle and go to juggling meet-ups. <br />Juggling is very physically interactive, but doesn't require direct physical contact, and is at least as cooperative as it is competitive. <br /><br />Also jugglers tend to be completely awesome.</p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4439667</link><pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:32:10 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4439667</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4439667@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > 2019-04-11 16:29 from Ragnar Danneskjold   
 >fleeb and I never met.  But I feel like I know him.   
 >    
  
 I'm actually so sure of that, I feel like if we met in person and he said
"Fascist"  and I responded "Fag" we'd just giggle and give each other a hug.

]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4439665</link><pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:29:44 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4439665</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4439665@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[fleeb and I never met.  But I feel like I know him. 
  
 I have a friend from grade school I reconnected with due to social media.
 We now text with one another 3 or 4 times a week. 
  
 Today I learned a former colleauge went to work somewhere else (a business
partner of mine).  We haven't worked together in 7 years.  But I learned instantly,
reached out and said congratulations. 
  
 How many of us right here, many of whom were social outcasts, found friendship
at the other end of a BBS?  And those posted thoughts and comments led to
real life relationships? 
  
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 It's a legitimate question, actually.   
    
 And, interestingly, posed by a lot of folks, as to whether or not this association
bears any merit.   
    
 For me, I may be responding to the fact that in some ways I feel I spend
less time around people than I did in my college years, before some of the
technologies we have today that make communication so much easier.  But to
what degree is that the fault of technology, vs. me just kind of withdrawing
as a consequence of aging or something.   
  
  
 And if it's just aging, to what degree do I find myself blaming technology
because it's shifting and changing as I'm aging, so it makes a good target
to avoid the real problem? 
  
 But then... what if technology really is at fault for at least some component
of it? 
  
 *tappity tip tap* 
  
 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/11/181108164316.htm 
  
  "Some of the existing literature
on social media suggests there's an enormous amount of social comparison that
happens.  When you look at other people's lives, particularly on Instagram,
it's easy to conclude that everyone else's life is cooler or better than yours."

  
 Well, that's interesting, if only an opinion.  The study did find that people
felt less lonely when they reduced their use of social media.  So there's
that. 
  
 I don't really use a lot of social media, so I'm probably not as subject
to this effect.  And I tend to use social media to share humor or ideas with
others rather than gossip, which would make me less likely to compare myself
to others that way. 
  
 But that's just social media.  There's still e-mail, teleconferencing, and
other technologies that, combined, have some kind of impact on our feeling
of isolation, I should think.  But I don't know if anyone has performed any
rigorous studies on this... or even how. 
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<p>I think it is a valid statement.  The technology separates us.</p>
<p>phones:  You don't have to visit another person you can call.</p>
<p>texting: You don't need lengthy call just text.</p>
<p>social media:  You don't need to communicate just read a facebook post. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>We are alone, we no longer need to be standing next to another human to communicate. </p>
<p> </p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4439571</link><pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:02:31 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4439571</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4439571@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > 2019-04-11 05:41 from fleeb     
 >      
 > It's kind of ironic that we have all this amazing technology designed 
   
 >to help us communicate thoughts and ideas better, yet we've never been 
   
 >more lonely.     
 >     
 >    
    
 I wonder why we say things like this?   
  
  
 Is it perception or reality?   
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 It's kind of ironic that we have all this amazing technology designed to
help us communicate thoughts and ideas better, yet we've never been more lonely.

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<p>I'm a proponent of Meetup (meetup.com)...you'd be amazed at the various meetups/get togethers for almost every sort of interest.</p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4438887</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 18:04:44 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4438887</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4438887@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ >    
 > I get the idea though.  I'd like to have more of the kind of friends  

 >that live nearby and can get together and do stuff all the time.   
 >   
 >  
  
 People are overrated. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4438845</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 16:22:43 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4438845</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4438845@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[IG - It's a two way street. You do the first half of having people over and
they do come over. And a bunch of your friends do the second half too. Of
having you come over (along with others). And it grows over time usually.

]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4438834</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 15:41:24 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4438834</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4438834@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I would *love* to get together with people and sing non-sacred music from
1640 AD underwater while building ice sculptures.  The problem is finding
people local enough to get together and do it. 
  
 I get the idea though.  I'd like to have more of the kind of friends that
live nearby and can get together and do stuff all the time. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4438514</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2019 15:42:49 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4438514</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4438514@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I second Fleeb's thoughts. 
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<p>Looks like too much hard work</p>
<p>I'll just have to do my aquatic singing alone.</p>
<p> </p>
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 arabella, if there's an activity you enjoy, you may be able to find others
who like that kind of activity, and are looking to group up to do such things,
which can lead to friendships. 
  
 An example... if you enjoy playing volleyball, you can find others around
your own age who play volleyball and join up.  Often, such places welcome
newcomers. 
  
 Although, if you like singing non-sacred music from 1640 AD underwater while
building ice sculptures, you might have a challenging time meeting up with
others for that activity. 
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<p>Until recently my lack of friends has been a non-issue.</p>
<p>The total number of friends I have is 0. (This number does not include my partner.)</p>
<p>Recently tho' I have considered that it might be nice to have one. Although I do worry that my independence would be compromised.</p>
<p>Also, I realised I don't actually know how to start a friendship.</p>
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to know, but I'm glad she felt she could ask me. So, they put her on Zoloft
and she's having issues in the bedroom, so she wanted to know what's worked
for me and not worked for me in the past re: antidepressants and libido. I
managed to actually answer her, very proud of myself. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4436248</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 20:54:22 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4436248</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4436248@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I want grandchildren (eventually) so I'm ok with my kids being sexually active
(eventually). 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4436197</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 17:17:41 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4436197</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4436197@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Sex and children do kinda go together, as one leads to the other. 
  
 But it's kinda funny how they don't mix. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4434316</link><pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2019 21:53:07 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4434316</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4434316@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > 2019-03-19 11:58 from pandora @uncnsrd in Relationships and Sex>     
 >I'm eating, sleeping, going to work, do some chores about the     
 >apartment, going to therapy.      
    
  
 (That's the only bit for here ... the remainder turned into a discussion
about the well-being of our children and has been moved to the Raising Kids
room) 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4431623</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2019 19:14:46 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4431623</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4431623@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[The initial shock will do that.  Hopefully you're at least eating and sleeping.

]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4430669</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 18:48:14 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4430669</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4430669@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I want to talk about it, and I don't. I'm having big feelings, and struggling
just to keep up with life. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4429048</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 17:48:21 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4429048</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4429048@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Gads.  Strong condolences, pandora.   
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4429002</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 14:21:46 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4429002</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4429002@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Pandora - I'm dreadfully sorry for your loss. The one thing this group can
offer is a place to talk. I hope it's something that can help. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4428730</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2019 19:56:11 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4428730</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4428730@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I don't have words either, just big feelings. 
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<p>I'm sorry for your loss.  </p>
<p>When something like this comes along, we don't have the words, and wish we could say something to make the hurt go away for you. </p>
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still living my life, though mostly going through the motions. Yesterday I
missed work for the first time since it happened. Just couldn't get out of
bed, I think I was dreaming of him. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4424581</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 00:04:21 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4424581</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4424581@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ >heights. We still both agree I need a second wife, preferably an  
 >Amish girl who wants to go English but thinks Rumspringa is too  
 >degenerate.  
  
  Amish concubines for Englishmen?  Is that a thing? 
   
  I'm not seeing any downside to this. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4423325</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2019 19:53:53 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4423325</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4423325@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 jekyll is back. for the time being. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422751</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 18:15:29 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422751</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422751@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I thought Jekyl was back already? 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422743</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 17:47:35 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422743</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422743@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Made the mistake of actually thinking about the problem again, today. Nothing
good came of that -- I think I want to vomit. 
  
 Hyde, go away. I want Jeykll back. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422414</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2019 15:22:44 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422414</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422414@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Isn't that what this place is? A new age group therapy experiment??  
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<p>We really should all be in therapy together....</p>
<p> </p>
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about YOUR relationship problems. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422167</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 21:00:04 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422167</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422167@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Even though it's possible that the entire y'all might need the therapy? 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422158</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:58:33 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422158</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422158@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[If I had meant all y'all, I could have said all y'all. Y'all in this case
is just LS and his GF, where all y'all would mean everyone else here as well
as LS and his GF. (side note, when I was in NY this october visiting family
my sisters were cracking up at my aquired southern drawl and vernaculare.)

]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422157</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:52:35 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422157</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422157@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ >are y'all in therapy?   
  
 No she's refusing to consider it. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422155</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:39:50 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422155</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422155@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Is that y'all or all y'all? I understand there's a difference. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422152</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:17:19 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422152</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422152@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[are y'all in therapy? 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422126</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 17:29:29 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422126</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422126@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 I certainly meant that her behavior is 100% unacceptable, that she has promised
to stop yet failed to control herself, so where does that leave us. 
  
 This morning she was apologetic. I said "sorry doesn't cut it, you've been
saying sorry for this over and over again, but you continue to violate my
trust after promising to change. 
  
 So your apology is not accepted. I need action not words, you need to bring
something to the table" 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422115</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 17:03:44 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422115</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422115@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Well, you said it, did you mean it?  
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422105</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:29:09 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422105</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422105@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[    
 There's truth in that, but there have been lots of shitty ways to continue
this relationship and none of them were coming from me.   
  
  
 What you're objecting to is the "don't say it if you don't mean it", aspect
of all this, but that's what I've been getting from her, over and over again.
Bad faith communication. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422102</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:13:32 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422102</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422102@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[My advice is if it's over, it's over. If you've stated it as such you need
to keep moving forward. Because using a breakup as a threat would be a shitty
way to continue the relationship. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4422078</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 13:57:59 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4422078</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4422078@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 New Years Resolution #2: continue to practice zero-tolerance for the cyber-bullying
that's been coming at me from certain quarters. 
  
 Even if it means ending my relationship (which, technically speaking, I literally
just did last night; "you are dead to me"; "stop harassing my friends"; "if
you f* with my friends, you f* with me." 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4421817</link><pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2019 17:38:56 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4421817</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4421817@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 "wife goggles" :-D 
  
 Just remember, the more she drinks, the better you look ;) 
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<p>My wife and I are approaching 50 and have been together for about 33 years. Neither of us are what we used to be, but apparently I still wear wife goggles, as our sex life the last few years has reached new heights. We still both agree I need a second wife, preferably an Amish girl who wants to go English but thinks Rumspringa is too degenerate.</p>
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 >before mating.   
  
 My compatibility matrix is complexifying out into more and more sub-dimensions
over time :-/ 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4419656</link><pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2019 16:19:40 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4419656</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4419656@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ >I'm talking actualy physical chemistry. Like the person might not even 
 
 >look physically atttractive to you, but your hormones and theirs match 
 
 >so well that you just cna't help having amazing sex.   
  
 I wonder if that happens when two people have a high degree of genetic compatibility
and are likely to produce strong healthy offspring. 
  
 Really though, you should sit down and draw a bunch of Punnett squares before
mating. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4419365</link><pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:41:08 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4419365</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4419365@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[And there's physical attraction, emotional attraction and mental attraction.
 Over times, the levels differ and mix interestingly. 
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for example 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4419357</link><pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:04:44 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4419357</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4419357@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm talking actualy physical chemistry. Like the person might not even look
physically atttractive to you, but your hormones and theirs match so well
that you just cna't help having amazing sex. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4419153</link><pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 00:35:27 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4419153</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4419153@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > 2019-01-29 08:20 from pandora   
 >I'm not buying that. If the chemistry isn't there they can work for it 
 
 >and it ain't gonna happen.   
  
 So what the fuck do we all do when we're old and wrinkled and we don't turn
each other on like we used to. There's got to be a way to make things work
when the chemistry is no longer what it once was. Because the alternative
is, to me, unacceptable. 
  
 To put it another way there's chemistry[1] and chemistry[2], you have to
work for the latter. 
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 You're both reacting to a related assertion, but it's not exactly the assertion
I was making. So let me try again.       
        
 In my experience, you can get with the *most* *attractive* *partner* in the
world--yet the chemistry might be smoking hot your first time with them, but
then you have problems with arousal the second time you get together with
them. So it ends up requiring patience and work and conscious effort to keep
things from getting stale and boring. Even when the chemistry is there.  
    
      
      
 Sometimes we all have days when we're just not in the mood--at least those
of us who are not all the way at the right hand side of the asexual/sexual
spectrum. Or sometimes we have days when we drank too much...     
      
 Or for some of us, myself included, we're at some level turned on by novelty
or turned on by taboo, and those can be fetishy things that
stop working for us after a while, or even, like only work the first time.
    
    
    
 I've been in a relationship for 11 years now. I'm not sure I know any couple
who's been together that long that's just as sexual as when they first met...
(ahem, show of hands?)   
  
  
 (And said 11-year relatioship was never really primarily about sex in the
first place, but that's another discussion for another post) 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4418767</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 17:29:19 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4418767</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4418767@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 I'm agreeing with pandora there. 
  
 Sometimes, the potency of the chemistry makes you do stupid things.  Other
times, nothing could make it work... or if there is something, it requires
an effort beyond recommendation. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4418434</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 13:20:51 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4418434</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4418434@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm not buying that. If the chemistry isn't there they can work for it and
it ain't gonna happen. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4417357</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 23:03:08 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4417357</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4417357@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 One of my partners likes to say: chemistry is not something you "have"; rather,
chemistry is something you "find." 
  
 Meaning, you have to work for it. Every time. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4407787</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:51:38 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4407787</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4407787@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Yup. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4407421</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:32:05 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4407421</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4407421@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[So the idea of people "having good chemistry" is supposed to be literal? 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4406011</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 15:50:27 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4406011</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4406011@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[IG, I think it's just when people have compatible pheremones. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4405647</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2018 16:22:47 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4405647</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4405647@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ >I'm not super nervous. ugh. What if the chemistry that's so strong with
 
 >our clothes on leaves with our clothes?   
  
 Whatever chemical this is, you should bottle it. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4403005</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:58:24 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4403005</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4403005@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 I suspected that. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4401328</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 15:33:39 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4401328</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4401328@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[It apparently did not. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4401282</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 11:23:50 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4401282</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4401282@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Does this form of chemistry even care about clothing? 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4399559</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2018 15:42:00 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4399559</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4399559@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm not super nervous. ugh. What if the chemistry that's so strong with our
clothes on leaves with our clothes? 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4399347</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2018 22:17:14 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4399347</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4399347@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 swoot 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4399326</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:57:48 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4399326</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4399326@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Dude I've been crushing on for like 4 years is coming over tomorrow night.
I'm freaking out with excitement. 
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]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=4395630</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2018 15:35:54 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #4395630</title><guid isPermaLink="false">4395630@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > "That's what I love about you," she said, "you didn't assume her   
 >grandmother got her into the college.  You just figured that's how she 
 
 >knew about it."   
  
 Probably some measure of both, actually. 
  
 Like it or not, nepotism works.  Or as they call it in Corporate America
... "networking". 
  
 Heck, I got my current job, some 18 years ago, through contacts I made on
this very BBS.  Someone, in fact, who promised me a few weeks ago that she'd
return here if I kept calling it a BBS.  Hmm. 
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<p>that's sweet. yes.</p>
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<div class="message_header"><span>Wed Aug 15 2018 10:46:55 EDT</span> <span>from fleeb @ Uncensored </span></div>
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<div class="fmout-JUSTIFY"><br />My sister had a funny observation about me I guess I didn't know. <br /><br />She mentioned this young lady we both know who... tries hard... but isn't an intellectual giant by any stretch of the imagination. Apparently, she's going to this obscure college in Florida that my sister thinks has a beautiful campus, etc. "Her grandmother works there," she said. <br /><br />"Oh! That's how she knows about the place!" I replied. <br /><br />"That's what I love about you," she said, "you didn't assume her grandmother got her into the college. You just figured that's how she knew about it." </div>
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<p> </p>
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 My sister had a funny observation about me I guess I didn't know. 
  
 She mentioned this young lady we both know who... tries hard... but isn't
an intellectual giant by any stretch of the imagination.  Apparently, she's
going to this obscure college in Florida that my sister thinks has a beautiful
campus, etc.  "Her grandmother works there," she said. 
  
 "Oh!  That's how she knows about the place!" I replied. 
  
 "That's what I love about you," she said, "you didn't assume her grandmother
got her into the college.  You just figured that's how she knew about it."

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 Not every day that something you do gets tweeted by a minor celebrity, approvingly,
and retweeted. *gloat* 
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<p>I decided to look it up because <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: x-small; background-color: #deded0;"> </span><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;">anonymous </span>was too lazy to provide links, facts or information.  It seems Rubio was arrested, and it was nothing and of course nothing like anonymous emphasized.</p>
<p>There were several articles, an article from the Washington Post called the area of his arrest "a crime plagued park", not "a gay cruising area"  It said he was never taken into custody.<br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rubios-summer-of-90-an-arrest-then-newfound-purpose/2016/01/21/3582a72e-c04d-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html </p>
<p>In an article from Miami New Times magazine they said <span style="color: #333333; font-family: serif12, serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; background-color: #f6f6f6;">Rubio was technically arrested, but according to those interviewed, he was not handcuffed or taken into custody. Instead, he was handed a notice to appear, and the charges were eventually thrown out. </span>New Times publications tend to be VERY liberal and very open minded.  By open minded I mean they have covered "alternative lifestyles" and have sections dedicated to gay issues.  Being that they are liberal and support gay causes they would have had a field day with a republican candidate and a gay sex story.  They didn't think it was a big deal.The title of the article was "MARCO RUBIO GOT ARRESTED IN MIAMI IN 1990 (BUT IT WAS FOR SOME BULLSHIT)"</p>
<p>http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/marco-rubio-got-arrested-in-miami-in-1990-but-it-was-for-some-bullshit-8196538</p>
<p>I don't know if anonymous was trying to stir up trouble or if he is just ignorant.  </p>
<p>Here is another link and they thought it was stupid kid stuff. (International Business Times)<br />http://www.ibtimes.com/election-2016-what-was-marco-rubio-arrested-age-18-miami-2276157</p>
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POTUS.  Unless he's the SJW variety, in which case he should go fuck himself
regardless of his sexual orientation.  Of course, he's a bastard commie globalist
so he can go fuck himself anyway. 
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<p>You need details, references and sources for that, the most important thing is what was he arrested for.  Arrested at 18 for a misdemeanor might be not that big of a deal.  Not only is "a known gay area in Miami" broad accusation, it is meaningless.  South Beach can be considered a "gay area" but it has great restaurants, entertainment and the beach, it is visited by heterosexuals and many tourists.  </p>
<p>Come back with details and facts and leave out the demographics.   Thanks</p>
<p> </p>
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 MARCO RUBIO.... 
 Arrested at age 18 having been caught in a 'known gay cruising area' in a
Miami park... 
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<p>The officer should get hazard pay for having sex with one of those people.</p>
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to automatically side with the police.  In fact, they claim to have been "abused"
which is patently ridiculous.  If they are SJW's then they really do need
to be beaten. 
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<p>I don't think this is anything new, it is a typical undercover sting operation.  </p>
<p>People not being dishonest in a relationship isn't new either.</p>
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<p>well, I guess this case is something for the tinfoil hatters:</p>
<p>http://thejusticegap.com/2016/01/12400/</p>
<p>undercover officers starting relationships with their work subjects to better monitor them. So sick.</p>
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<p>But seriously, you should take time for yourself. Have the dad watch after the kids and go on s shopping spree, hiking or simply sitting in a park staring at ducks. Dads can be assholes about that, since we enjoy staring at TVs our self very much... </p>
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it we were to a park on Rt 202 which also has a dog run, and so they have
lots of dogs there. There's also a lake.  As soon as I entered the park with
Yaakov, he ran to the lake to see the doggies. And we stayed there for the
entire hour and half, with him tossing pebbles in the water and squealing
with happiness at all the dogs. He had fun and was adorable. But I can't take
him hiking yet.  
  
 Ladyhawke, you are so right. I try to wake up about 5am to exercise. I didn't
realize I was doing it in order to have time away from the kids till my oldest,
Shlomo, started waking up with me at 5 and I found myself seriously resenting
his presence and incessant chatter during what had been "my" time. But really,
he's right. He literally never has time to spend with me or talk to me otherwise.
 
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 lulz... 
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<p>Suspect part of the reason for the hiking is so that they are NOT with her...  :-)</p>
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 how old is your youngest now? one of these days they gots to come hiking
WITH you. 
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 See, somehow this has to work better. Those Other People seem to balance
kids with physical activity... they can't just all be super(wo)?men 
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<p>Do so! Babysitting grandpas are a win-win-win-win situation....</p>
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to Saba on the phone I hear him say "Please babysit me".  
 Yeah. My dad is often tired and/or busy but occasionally I get him to babysit.
I should ask him to babysit for things other than dentist appointments or
parent-teacher nights. I should ask him if he minds babysitting just so I
can go hiking. He would probably be delighted. 
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<p>So, was the movie any good?</p>
<p>What about leaving the kids with their grand parents while going out? I have no love for babysitters, but if the grandparents take care of our son, we do like to go on a christmas shopping spree, to a nice dinner or we visit a (movie) theatre. The kid does enjoy the time with grandpa, too.</p>
<p>But I rarely find the time to meet with friends, too. It is getting better now that our son grows up a little.</p>
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those who might remember my mom)      
 They made it clear it would make them SO happy to have me along. I was immediately
overcome with guilt.     
 I can't leave the house. Like, ever. Unless it's to do grocery shopping or
car pool. But I can't disappoint my dad either.      
 I explained thw whole dillemma to Adina (13) and she agreed to babysit Yaakov
and said I should go.      
 To understand, I do not go out to movies. The cost and the horrible waste
of time make the idea of going out to movies repugnant. But my dad wanted
me to go out, and I went out with him and Rina.      
    
 The time in the quiet dark theater lent itself to thinking things through
a little and I realized that every time one of my friends tries to hang out
with me, I blow them off. Every time. I don't have time to hang out, to go
hiking,
to go to classes or book club or anything. I can't. I have to be home, the
home and the kids need me. Going out to the movies a few hours with my parents
had me wracked with guilt the entire time I was out over having abandoned
the family. Staying home, I would have been wracked with guilt for disappointing
my father. It's like having friends is a no-win situation, but I KNOW that's
not right.    
  
 Oh yeah, I also leave the house for parent-teacher meetings 
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<p>"Hello, Dave"</p>
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<p>http://www.flickr.com/photos/jagrap/4204227686/</p>
<p>The interwebs confirm it.</p>
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<p>"No, man, *I* am Dave.  Let me in.  I've got the stuff.  I think the cops saw me."</p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3623146</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:58:28 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3623146</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3623146@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 DAVE IS SANTA?!!? 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3622014</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Dec 2013 19:45:56 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3622014</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3622014@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Or IS HE...???  
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3621537</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:53:46 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3621537</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3621537@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Dave's not here. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3614704</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2013 02:14:44 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3614704</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3614704@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[It wasn't all smooth sailing.  She dated my friend Dave in high school.  That
started badly and ended worse. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3613343</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:20:32 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3613343</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3613343@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I've heard about them but mostly from fiction stories. 
 My daughter tells me that her friend's parents used to play house when they
were little and decided to get married when they were still kids. So it does
happen in real life too.  
 triL, Yeah, I wish angst would confine itself to the teenage years.  
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<p>Now that's knowing what you want....</p>
<p>Don't think I've ever heard of a match quite that single-minded.  Good for you, Sig.</p>
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<p>wow. Can't imagine how my twenties would've been without the angst of dumping and being dumped repeatedly...</p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3612629</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 00:58:34 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3612629</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3612629@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[13 years and counting. Complaints, but none worth mentioning most of the time,
and I wouldn't trade her in for anything. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3610978</link><pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 21:40:43 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3610978</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3610978@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Pretty early for decisions like that, but I assume it somehow worked out
well for you. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3610940</link><pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:28:53 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3610940</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3610940@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I have the great fortune that I have no old flames; I met my wife in 2nd grade
and concluded that I would probably have to marry her by 3rd grade.  Took
a while to convince her, though. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3600115</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:10:15 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3600115</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3600115@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Spike Jones is awesome! 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3599874</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 02:40:53 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3599874</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3599874@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[fleeb- can't stop laughing..   
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3599873</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 02:39:51 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3599873</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3599873@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ > Nov 22 2013 6:02pm from LoanShark @uncnsrd   
 >    
 > When? Patience. To a true student, a year is as a day.   
  
 LS, I never knew how wise you were!  
 I hope with long patience and hard study I too can learn to be a wise guy

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<p>not finding the wisdom.... just finding myself getting older and more decrepit.</p>
<p> </p>
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]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3599779</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:27:43 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3599779</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3599779@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D2A32KUTq0 
  
 (On the subject of old flames) 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3599606</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2013 14:59:08 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3599606</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3599606@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3599154</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2013 02:54:22 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3599154</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3599154@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[A YEAR?  I want to beat people up NOW. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3599062</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2013 23:02:33 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3599062</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3599062@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 When? Patience. To a true student, a year is as a day. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3598008</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2013 03:40:09 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3598008</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3598008@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[We ARE getting older, thank G-d.  But I recall the phrase was "older and wiser".

 Does anyone here feel any wiser? I see the older bit, when does "wise" kick
in? I wouldn't mind a bit of that. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3597828</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2013 23:02:52 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3597828</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3597828@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[ >Old flames will always be old flames, most everyone has tender spots in
 
 >their hearts for old flames. Even if they WERE crazy. :)    
 > Wow, has it been 15 years already? Where has the time gone?   
  
 It has. We're all getting old. 
  
 Anyway, the dust has all settled. I gave the old friend a lecture, to which
her response was.. silence. :-P 
  
 And then I went and got my rocks off elsewhere. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3597429</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:15:57 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3597429</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3597429@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[You know why it was so important for you to have met and dated her? So you
can appreicate Boo-boo all the more in life. if/when you ever disagree or
even G-d forbid, fight, you can always look back and remember and realize
how lucky you are.  
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3597414</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:47:22 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3597414</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3597414@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Nope.  No tender spots here.  Glad she's gone.  Gadzooks, what a freaking
psychopath she was. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3596222</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:48:13 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3596222</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3596222@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[Old flames will always be old flames, most everyone has tender spots in their
hearts for old flames. Even if they WERE crazy. :)  
 Wow, has it been 15 years already? Where has the time gone? 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3586826</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2013 23:16:09 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3586826</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3586826@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[*grumpy hat ON* just when you thought you'd safely compartmentalized any remaining
feelings toward an old flame of 15 years ago, her mother shows up on facebook
frothing mad at someone she's presumably dating, which sounds like it might
be abusive, speaking in religious overtones and using words like "the devil."
  
    
 what a piece of work those two (mother and daughter both) always were.  

  
  
 i don't need this. got enough problems of my own. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3568139</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:37:32 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3568139</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3568139@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[  
 Children are almost always the victims in a divorce. 
   
 Although in the US, it has become a rite of passage. 
]]></description></item><item><link>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Relationships%20and%20Sex?start_reading_at=3563699</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 20:35:09 -0000</pubDate><title>Message #3563699</title><guid isPermaLink="false">3563699@Uncensored</guid><description><![CDATA[I have a renewed appreciation for my non-crazy spouse.

A coworker and good friend is at the beginning of an ugly divorce.  
While I am only hearing one side, it's consistent with what we have seen 
and known of them.  There's a wonderful almost-3-year-old little girl 
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