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[#] Mon Dec 10 2018 14:23:31 EST from Freakdog @ Uncensored

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Mon Dec 10 2018 13:33:49 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
Are they going to move from AIX to Linux on the same hardware, or are they switching to x86 as well?

I'd be willing to bet it's x86...can't move to "the cloud" if you're still running on Power.



[#] Tue Dec 11 2018 07:55:42 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Hrm.

I wonder how much of Ubuntu's success relies more on Debian than whatever value they've brought to the whole thing.

But then, I look with frustration at what I needed to do to package something in RPM terms vs. Debian. Packaging is frustrating regardless of what system you use, but RPMs seem less robust than Debian, requiring a more manual process to address certain things. Debian seemed to have figured it out, and made their packaging system far simpler for the end user, if more complex to the developer.

I wonder about this because it'd be kind of funny if IBM addresses this shortcoming in RPM (as well as maybe getting Redhat to move a tad faster on providing reliable updates and regular releases), Redhat might kick ass again.

[#] Tue Dec 11 2018 09:28:19 EST from pandora @ Uncensored

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They'd be moving to the vmware environment from the ibm gear.

[#] Tue Dec 11 2018 11:18:04 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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2018-12-07 10:45 from pandora
So, folks here at work want to move Oracle from AIX to Linux. My boss

has assigned me to teach the AIX Admins our Linuxy ways. Holy crap.



Awesome! It's the right move. Now they should hire me to teach my AWS ways.

[#] Tue Dec 11 2018 11:18:32 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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pandora: congratulations on the recognition you're receiving.

[#] Tue Dec 11 2018 11:20:46 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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I wonder how much of Ubuntu's success relies more on Debian than
whatever value they've brought to the whole thing.

Yeah, they get a lot of value from debian... although they are a fork, and I wonder how wise that is.

Ubuntu invests significantly in actual Linux development though. They contribute a lot to kernel and openjdk and gnome and countless other things no doubt.

But yeah, they are a paid-support org for a Debian variant.

[#] Thu Dec 13 2018 17:37:46 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Little by little, I'm warming up to Docker. It's a great way to deploy services.

Logging? Just send it all to stdout/stderr. If you're deploying within a proper docker-friendly environment, you don't need to do anything more. Disks will never fill up with logs, it all just goes to CloudWatch (or similar.)

[#] Thu Dec 13 2018 18:32:10 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I'm getting that impression ... the whole world seems to be converging around Docker as the universal way to package a service for deployment in arbitrary environments. And I think I'm ok with that.

Years ago I was invited to do some brainstorming with a startup that wanted to build a PaaS cloud dedicated to a specific vertical market. (They utterly failed at it, but they're still around doing consulting work.) The big thing I was looking for at the time was a way for participants to register services with the platform, so that those services could be provided from any location in the network, from as many instances as were required for scale, and the front end would just "find" them. None of the front end load balancing services we looked at were capable of accepting an inbound registration from a service which could declare "I'm a provider of service X, and here I am at address Y port Z".

The kind of infrastructures being built now with Docker and Kubernetes seem to be targeted at doing exactly that.

[#] Fri Dec 14 2018 08:25:16 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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2018-12-13 18:32 from IGnatius T Foobar
I'm getting that impression ... the whole world seems to be converging

around Docker as the universal way to package a service for deployment

in arbitrary environments. And I think I'm ok with that.

That's exactly what's happening. Maybe you deploy it on top of an Ansible cluster, a Kubernetes cluster, or Amazon ECS, which is Amazon's kubernetes competitor. Either way, all 3 of those things know how to ingest Docker images (and the latter two *only* support docker)


So this is exactly what's happening, actually the consultants that built the UI for my current employer are a little behind the curve (other consulting groups tend to LEAD the curve with more modern practices than their clients) -- they built standard Ansible packages (non-Docker) -- they did a little bit of Docker work but it's only configured to run on the local developer laptops. So it goes.

[#] Fri Dec 14 2018 09:44:23 EST from pandora @ Uncensored

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LS: thanks, I'm really proud of myself these days. This past week my boss has come to me instead of the team lead to ask questions on stuff, and it totally feeds my ego. (especially since he's coming to me and not the senior admin between me and the lead)

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